grenaded rear end -stuck half shaft

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  • rwollschlager
    5th Gear
    • Sep 2007
    • 583

    grenaded rear end -stuck half shaft

    Long story short after taking much of my abuse, my SIIA 109's rear end finally blew up. Shards of metal blew through the rear diff cover and promptly leaked all the oil out. Fun stuff. I managed to pull one shaft out, but for the life of me cannot get the other side out. The splines are most likely twisted. I have the drive flange off, and the shaft wont come out. I sent a metal rod through the other side and used a BFH to try knocking it out but to no prevail. I also loosened the diff and tried to lift that out, but that also was not working because of the other shaft. Am I missing something/what are some other tricks to get this other shaft out?
    Thanks,
    -Rob
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    72 SIII 88
    67 SIIA 109
    82 SIII Stage 1 V8
    -- http://www.youtube.com/barnfind88 --
  • VTBKRDS
    Low Range
    • Nov 2010
    • 42

    #2
    You need to remove the cross pin to remove the spider gears. Then you should be able to "tap" out the oppossing shaft using your rod and BFH. Hopefully you haven't damaged the cross pin to badly from pounding against it. Disc cutter will make short work of it, if it is.

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    • rwollschlager
      5th Gear
      • Sep 2007
      • 583

      #3
      The cross pin cannot be removed unless the diff is out. In this case the diff could not be taken out with that other half shaft still in place. The trick is to use a rod small enough to snake past the cross pin but still make contact with the other shaft.

      Update: I was able to remove the stuck shaft - I took off the hub, spindle, and brake backing plate, reinstalled the drive-flange, put a rope around the drive flange, and gave it a light tug with my 88, popped right out. Not the cleanest, easiest, or safest way to do it, but its done. Video to follow.
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      72 SIII 88
      67 SIIA 109
      82 SIII Stage 1 V8
      -- http://www.youtube.com/barnfind88 --

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      • JimCT
        5th Gear
        • Nov 2006
        • 518

        #4
        rear axle

        looks like it is time for a Salisbury, Detroit locker and GB's hardened axles and flanges. If they can survive me and the ambulance they should work great for you.
        1968 battlefield ambulance/camper
        1963 Unimog Radio box
        1995 LWB RR

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        • rwollschlager
          5th Gear
          • Sep 2007
          • 583

          #5
          If i can find a Salisbury around that would be great. As of now I'm completely rebuilding the stock rear end because I have most of the bits for it laying around my yard. I do not think I'm ready to take the plunge in buying a traction aid for the 109 as it serves as the around town/base camp vehicle while the 88 is the designated trail truck.
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          72 SIII 88
          67 SIIA 109
          82 SIII Stage 1 V8
          -- http://www.youtube.com/barnfind88 --

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          • slorocco
            2nd Gear
            • Feb 2007
            • 208

            #6
            I know of a Salisbury that is available in NY. It is a takeout from a low mileage 109 6 cyl. PM me if you're interested in contact info.

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            • RoverForm
              3rd Gear
              • Jul 2010
              • 348

              #7
              let's see that video...

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              • rwollschlager
                5th Gear
                • Sep 2007
                • 583

                #8
                Originally posted by RoverForm
                let's see that video...
                excuse the initial commentary, but here it is:



                -Rob
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                72 SIII 88
                67 SIIA 109
                82 SIII Stage 1 V8
                -- http://www.youtube.com/barnfind88 --

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                • LR Max
                  3rd Gear
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 315

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JimCT
                  looks like it is time for a Salisbury, Detroit locker and GB's hardened axles and flanges. If they can survive me and the ambulance they should work great for you.
                  THIS!

                  I don't have GB aftermarket shafts but stock salisbury with a Detroit locker. If you want to off road that 109, add this. Significant improvement in performance and piece of mind knowing that it ain't gonna give out on you.

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                  • SalemRover
                    3rd Gear
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 310

                    #10
                    Rob,

                    Heading out now to get yet another puller for my salisbury rear rebuild. I feel your pain. When you get the new one it would be worth taking the time to inspect it before putting it in. If you go the salisbury route Its much easier to do a salisbury rebuild out of the truck than on it fyi. Good luck wrenching!

                    -Jason

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                    • daveb
                      5th Gear
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 513

                      #11
                      Jason, what happened to your Salisbury?


                      Originally posted by SalemRover
                      Rob,

                      Heading out now to get yet another puller for my salisbury rear rebuild. I feel your pain. When you get the new one it would be worth taking the time to inspect it before putting it in. If you go the salisbury route Its much easier to do a salisbury rebuild out of the truck than on it fyi. Good luck wrenching!

                      -Jason
                      A Land Rover would never turn up to collect an Oscar. It'd be far too busy doing something important, somewhere, for someone."


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                      • SalemRover
                        3rd Gear
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 310

                        #12
                        Dave,

                        Well if you keep pulling sapling stumps out of your backyard something is bound to give up the ghost. The halfshafts in the salisbury were pretty worn and one grenaded and the nub lodged itself in the carrier. I opened it up to fish it out and Hey! That pinion is loose! that oil seal is failed! there is wear on my bearing cups! I am sure you know how it goes. So I am in the middle of that.

                        Cheers,

                        Jason

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                        • daveb
                          5th Gear
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 513

                          #13
                          Indeed, just went through that with the rear axle on my 90. $1000 in parts later and all is well again.

                          Originally posted by SalemRover
                          Dave,

                          Well if you keep pulling sapling stumps out of your backyard something is bound to give up the ghost. The halfshafts in the salisbury were pretty worn and one grenaded and the nub lodged itself in the carrier. I opened it up to fish it out and Hey! That pinion is loose! that oil seal is failed! there is wear on my bearing cups! I am sure you know how it goes. So I am in the middle of that.

                          Cheers,

                          Jason
                          A Land Rover would never turn up to collect an Oscar. It'd be far too busy doing something important, somewhere, for someone."


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