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  • siii8873
    Overdrive
    • Jul 2007
    • 1011

    tach wiring

    I have a defender tach that I want to install in SIII. Anyone have a wiring diagram for the tach?
    THING 1 - 1973 88 SIII - SOLD
    THING 2 -1974 88 SIII Daily Driver - SOLD
    THING 3 - 1969 88 SIIA Bugeye Project
    THING 4 - 1971 109 SIIA ExMod - SOLD
    THING 5 - 1958 109 PU
    THING 6 - 1954 86" HT
  • knac1234
    4th Gear
    • Nov 2010
    • 442

    #2
    Don't suppose it's as simple as connecting it to the pos and neg on the coil? Did that when adding a tach to my Imp and the Rover.

    But both of my tachs had a switch for 4, 6, or 8 cylinder engines. Not familiar with the Defender one though.

    Regards,
    Julian
    Julian
    72 Series III NAS
    03 Disco
    04 Freelander (sold, but still running strong)
    2011 LR2 (Fuji White/Tan....per the wife )
    65 MGB / 73 MGBGT
    71 RHD Hillman Super Imp

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    • siii8873
      Overdrive
      • Jul 2007
      • 1011

      #3
      Looked closer at tach there are 3 connectors (G,+,-), I assume??
      G to Ground
      - to Negitive side of coil
      + to Positive side of coil
      THING 1 - 1973 88 SIII - SOLD
      THING 2 -1974 88 SIII Daily Driver - SOLD
      THING 3 - 1969 88 SIIA Bugeye Project
      THING 4 - 1971 109 SIIA ExMod - SOLD
      THING 5 - 1958 109 PU
      THING 6 - 1954 86" HT

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      • Apis Mellifera
        3rd Gear
        • Apr 2008
        • 386

        #4
        You can go it that way. I wired an MG Midget tach in my SIII that way. Basically you want a ground, switched power, and the signal from the negative side of the coil.
        © 1974 Apis Mellifera. Few rights preserved.

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        • Terrys
          Overdrive
          • May 2007
          • 1382

          #5
          Defender tach gets it's pulse from the W terminal of the alternator. If you're running a late alternator, it should have the W terminal, early ones do not.

          That's a VDOtach btw, for anyone who wants to run a tach, they are available for about $70
          Last edited by Terrys; 09-09-2011, 08:57 PM.

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          • Andrew IIA
            3rd Gear
            • Feb 2008
            • 327

            #6
            Series Rovers shouldn't have a tach. There, I said it.
            Andrew
            '63 SIIA 88" SW

            http://hungrynaturalist.blogspot.com/

            Rover Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/skunkal...7610584998247/

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            • Terrys
              Overdrive
              • May 2007
              • 1382

              #7
              Originally posted by Andrew IIA
              Series Rovers shouldn't have a tach. There, I said it.
              Stop beating around the bush and tell us how you really feel.

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              • siii8873
                Overdrive
                • Jul 2007
                • 1011

                #8
                OK I see two hookups here, not sure which is correct. How can I tell which way to hook this up? Again three connections are marked G,+,-
                Sort of agree about the series tach comment but it came free with some parts so what the heck. Would be handy for tuning ect.
                THING 1 - 1973 88 SIII - SOLD
                THING 2 -1974 88 SIII Daily Driver - SOLD
                THING 3 - 1969 88 SIIA Bugeye Project
                THING 4 - 1971 109 SIIA ExMod - SOLD
                THING 5 - 1958 109 PU
                THING 6 - 1954 86" HT

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                • Apis Mellifera
                  3rd Gear
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 386

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Apis Mellifera
                  Basically you want a ground, switched power, and the signal from the negative side of the coil.
                  The above should do it. G to ground, - to - on coil and + to + either on the coil or some other source.
                  © 1974 Apis Mellifera. Few rights preserved.

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                  • Terrys
                    Overdrive
                    • May 2007
                    • 1382

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Apis Mellifera
                    The above should do it. G to ground, - to - on coil and + to + either on the coil or some other source.
                    But it won't.

                    siii8873 stated in the first post that he had a Defender tach. First off, The Defender tach (VDO) gets it's signal input from the W terminal of the alternator, an AC signal. Refer to the attached schematic from the Defender manual.
                    VDO makes all sorts of electronic 2 1/8" tachs that look alike, but differ in how they get and interpret the input. The Defender tach has no provision for setting the number of engine cyliners, as would be necessary in a DC pulsed input. With a generic VDO Programmable, you must set dip switches on the back for 4,6, or 8 cylinders. Another dip switch is toggled for DC input (coil connected) or AC input (tapped from the alternator, one corner of the three phase AC winding, before the bridge.
                    The Defender tach has no provision for programming AC, DC, or inductive input.
                    Go to egauges.com for various VDO tach wiring diagrams (as well as other manufacturers)

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                    • SalemRover
                      3rd Gear
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 310

                      #11
                      The W terminal is a just plug that runs to the Stator. What Terrys said is spot on, you wont be able to calibrate your D90 tach to your series. Check this link for some ideas on hooking up a vdo tach to an alternator.

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                      • Terrys
                        Overdrive
                        • May 2007
                        • 1382

                        #12
                        I found these while hunting up a VDO tach for my boat. They can be connected W (alternator) Inductive pulse (optional transducer) or coil. It retails over $175, so this is a pretty good deal ( I actually bought two). Perfect for the 2 cyl diesel in my launch, whose engine harness was pre-wired with a lead from the W terminal. The Hour meter is good in the boat, but handy for service schedules on our trucks that make lots of short trips. I don't know about others, but I doubt I ever rev my s3 over 4000 rpm, and the boat engine will never see 3500. Too bad they aren't the 52mm version.

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                        • Apis Mellifera
                          3rd Gear
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 386

                          #13
                          I guess I was assuming it would be as simple as an RVC tach. Since it's not and won't work, if you still want a tach, I'd suggest a Smiths from an MG Midget, MGB, etc. You can get them for $20 and they look like they belong in a Series.

                          I rev limited by ear prior to fitting the tach. I've since found that means around 3000, which is ~60mph with OD on. 4000 is 70ish.
                          © 1974 Apis Mellifera. Few rights preserved.

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                          • Andrew IIA
                            3rd Gear
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 327

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Andrew IIA
                            Series Rovers shouldn't have a tach. There, I said it.
                            Terrys Quote:
                            Originally Posted by Apis Mellifera
                            The above should do it. G to ground, - to - on coil and + to + either on the coil or some other source.

                            But it won't.
                            I am not going to say ..... ITYS ....







                            [kidding kidding. do what you want with/to your Rover and enjoy ]
                            Andrew
                            '63 SIIA 88" SW

                            http://hungrynaturalist.blogspot.com/

                            Rover Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/skunkal...7610584998247/

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