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  • cousindave
    1st Gear
    • Jan 2007
    • 192

    stumped

    Was driving today and she decided to start stumbling. It got to a point where she had no power to get up my driveway, even in 4low! It was not overheating and oil pressure was good. This morning i went back out and started her she sounds like crap.. it backfires once in a while and when she warmed up she stalled. Smoke looks to be coming out of the bottom of either intake or exhaust and a hissing sound? Do the symptoms described suggest cracked intake?
  • solihull109
    1st Gear
    • May 2007
    • 191

    #2
    How long was the truck sitting before you took it out?
    knowledge without experience is just information.... Mark Twain



    www.downeastcoachworks.com

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    • cedryck
      5th Gear
      • Sep 2010
      • 836

      #3
      Possible poor gasket at intake, or exhaust (you say you see smoke there), poor gasket may be allowing air to intake. My dad used to take an old colemans jug with a tip and not light it, let the gas seep out around an intake gasket or carb area, and when the engine ran better he located the intake leak. cheers.

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      • cousindave
        1st Gear
        • Jan 2007
        • 192

        #4
        It sat all summer.... bad gas?? What about the hissing?
        I'll try the gas trick, thanks!

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        • printjunky
          3rd Gear
          • Jul 2007
          • 325

          #5
          Check any vacuum fittings on the manifold and around the carb. I lost a cap on an unused fitting on the Maiden Voyage (after an engine rebuild) to Wisconsin and it started running much like you describe.

          How often do manifolds crack?

          Get a can of starting fluid and spray it around the manifold joints, carb base, etc. Same principle as the Coleman's can, it'll suck it in and rev when you've found the leak.

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          • cedryck
            5th Gear
            • Sep 2010
            • 836

            #6
            The colemans can with the tip works mint, just be mindfull flamable gas.

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            • TeriAnn
              Overdrive
              • Nov 2006
              • 1087

              #7
              I suggest always starting with the easiest and cheapest possible causes and work your way to the hardest to fix & most expensive.

              So first check your point gap. Next check your vacuum line from carb to distributor. Next (with new rubber seal in hand) remove the sediment bowl, discard liquid & clean the screen. Next replace the fuel filter. Next replace the condenser. Next, check for a blue spark as your coil or centre spark plug wire might be bad. Next (with new gasket in hand) pull the fuel draw tube and check to see if the screen at the bottom is clogged.

              Chances are very good that you will have found your problem before you hit the end of this list. Any of the above items could cause your symptoms. Electrical and fuel problems tend to show the same symptoms. It is best not to focus on one without checking the other as well.

              Good luck finding your cause.
              -

              Teriann Wakeman_________
              Flagstaff, AZ.




              1960 Land Rover Dormobile, owned since 1978

              My Land Rover web site

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              • griswald
                1st Gear
                • Mar 2008
                • 103

                #8
                I would change points and condensor first...that is where your problem should be.

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                • cousindave
                  1st Gear
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 192

                  #9
                  Thanks for the advice everyone... I' m getting closer... Itried the starter fluid trick, no air leaks. I changed the fuel filter, fresh gas put in, but she still runs rough.. I found that the #1 cylinder is not firing.. I pulled the spark plug, and it was pitch black, i cleaned it and still does not fire.. I also noticed oil leaking out of the exhaust pipe where the pipe joins to the exhaust manifold. Any ideas? Where do I go from here?

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                  • SafeAirOne
                    Overdrive
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 3435

                    #10
                    What are the cylinder compression readings?

                    It sounds as if oil is getting into the cylinder from one of several possible sources.
                    --Mark

                    1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                    0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                    (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                    • jac04
                      Overdrive
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 1884

                      #11
                      Originally posted by cousindave
                      ... it and still does not fire.. I also noticed oil leaking out of the exhaust pipe where the pipe joins to the exhaust manifold.
                      My guess it that you are seeing unburned fuel seeping out of the exhaust since you have a plug that isn't sparking (so the unburned fuel from that cylinder is simply being sent out the exhaust). If all other plugs are firing fine, I would start with: 1) the plug itself, 2) the wire for that cylinder, 3) the distributor cap.

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                      • SafeAirOne
                        Overdrive
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 3435

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jac04
                        My guess it that you are seeing unburned fuel seeping out of the exhaust since you have a plug that isn't sparking
                        Good point.
                        --Mark

                        1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                        0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                        (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                        • cousindave
                          1st Gear
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 192

                          #13
                          So i installed new plugs and wires new cap and still #1 cylinder not firing.. i checked for spark it does have spark, but dont know how to recognize weak or strong spark.. also if it has good spark, then what next?

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                          • siii8873
                            Overdrive
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 1013

                            #14
                            could be a valve problem, pull valve cover and inspect rockers.
                            THING 1 - 1973 88 SIII - SOLD
                            THING 2 -1974 88 SIII Daily Driver - SOLD
                            THING 3 - 1969 88 SIIA Bugeye Project
                            THING 4 - 1971 109 SIIA ExMod - SOLD
                            THING 5 - 1958 109 PU
                            THING 6 - 1954 86" HT

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                            • cousindave
                              1st Gear
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 192

                              #15
                              Ok so i was iut this morning and now #2 and #3 are not firing and#1and#4 are.. now i am truly stumped!! I have crane cams electronic ignition.. could it be this?? My dashboard voltmeter reads under 13 votls while idling could this be what is the problem?

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