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  • transalpian
    Low Range
    • Aug 2011
    • 68

    Aux light idea

    Has anyone tried wiring the relay for aux lights in parallel with the high beams? In other words, I'd like tge aux lights to come on with the high beams, but the aux lights need to be on a seperate circuit.

    Any issues with this idea?
  • SafeAirOne
    Overdrive
    • Apr 2008
    • 3435

    #2
    That's the way Hella says to do it in their instructions (well, the preferred way, anyhow):

    --Mark

    1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

    0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
    (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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    • transalpian
      Low Range
      • Aug 2011
      • 68

      #3
      Cool, so it must work!!

      One question, what does the switch do in this config? Does it allow the aux lights to not come on with the high beams?

      (thanks for the diagram)

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      • SafeAirOne
        Overdrive
        • Apr 2008
        • 3435

        #4
        In both diagrams, the switch controls power to the relay. When the relay is energized, a second, separate circuit is switched on, sending power directly from the battery to the aux lights.

        In the top schematic, the switch controlling power to the relay gets 12 volts from the high beam wire, which is only energized when the high beams are on of course. If the high beams are on, the switch will turn on or off the aux lights only.
        --Mark

        1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

        0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
        (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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        • bkreutz
          4th Gear
          • Apr 2010
          • 408

          #5
          By law, in Germany (where Hella originates) driving lights can only come on with the high beams (not by themselves) just as fog lights can only come on with the low beams. The switch allows the lights not to come on, but if in the on position they will come on when the lights are on (fog or driving depending on which beam is selected)
          Gale Breitkreutz
          '03 Disco
          '74 Series III 88 (sold, 4/13)
          '47 CJ2A

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          • transalpian
            Low Range
            • Aug 2011
            • 68

            #6
            So if I omit the switch, the aux lights will come on with the highbeams.

            Any real reason to include the switch (ignoring dot reqmts)?

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            • bkreutz
              4th Gear
              • Apr 2010
              • 408

              #7
              You may want the ability to turn them off depending on weather conditions (glare)
              Gale Breitkreutz
              '03 Disco
              '74 Series III 88 (sold, 4/13)
              '47 CJ2A

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              • SafeAirOne
                Overdrive
                • Apr 2008
                • 3435

                #8
                In the case of off-road lights, you will blind other drivers WELL beyond the range that ordinary high beams should be dimmed.
                --Mark

                1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                • transalpian
                  Low Range
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 68

                  #9
                  Originally posted by SafeAirOne
                  In the case of off-road lights, you will blind other drivers WELL beyond the range that ordinary high beams should be dimmed.
                  That is a very good point, thank you!

                  Next (related) question: mount on the front bumper or on the roof rack?

                  Bumper mounting gives low light and easier wiring (both distance and wire chases).

                  Roof rack mounting puts the light up high but much harder to route the wires (from what I can see). I'm also not interested in cutting a hole in the roof.

                  I plan on using these to suppliment my headlights on my ever-darkening morning commute. Is bumper mounting better?

                  Thanks!

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                  • LaneRover
                    Overdrive
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 1743

                    #10
                    It may be illegal to use the lights on the road if they are mounted on the roof rack.
                    1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
                    1965 109 SW - nearly running well
                    1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
                    1969 109 P-UP

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                    • jac04
                      Overdrive
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 1884

                      #11
                      Originally posted by transalpian
                      I plan on using these to suppliment my headlights on my ever-darkening morning commute. Is bumper mounting better?
                      Yes, bumper mount them. Lights on the roof look cool, but you will get glare & distraction from the front of your vehicle being lit up. Check your local motor vehicle codes for allowable height for the lights.

                      You may want to focus on upgrading your existing headlights before investing in aux lights. Hella makes a very nice replacement 7" round replacement headlight. Run the lights directly off the battery using relays. It makes a big difference.

                      Now, if you are serious (really serious) about lighting, then you may want to cosider HIDs. You probably have to modify the headlight buckets, but the results will be worth it. Check out the Sylvania Xenarc Xe7R bi-xenon lights here:
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                      More selection here:
                      This website is for sale! suvlights.com is your first and best source for all of the information you’re looking for. From general topics to more of what you would expect to find here, suvlights.com has it all. We hope you find what you are searching for!

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                      • SafeAirOne
                        Overdrive
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 3435

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jac04
                        Now, if you are serious (really serious) about lighting, then you may want to cosider HIDs. You probably have to modify the headlight buckets, but the results will be worth it.
                        Results will be worth $688 (the cost of just the pair of headlights)?? I dunno. Wouldn't be worth it to me. You can get night vision goggles for that much and completely solve your lighting issues.
                        --Mark

                        1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                        0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                        (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                        • jac04
                          Overdrive
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 1884

                          #13
                          Have you ever had a car with HID lights? I have, and they are incredible.
                          You just need to put the cost into perspective. If they can keep you from getting into an accident or hitting a deer/moose, then $700 is well worth it.

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                          • masonater
                            3rd Gear
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 329

                            #14
                            I saw these on a Icon Toyota this summer and they are pretty bright and a very nice looking light.
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                            • albersj51
                              5th Gear
                              • May 2010
                              • 687

                              #15
                              Ive thought about HIDs for mine, but think they may be too bling. However, they are awesome! My daily driver has them and I love them. I upgraded the fog lamps as well and they make a big difference. I am pretty sure you could do it for far less than $700. All you need is a housing with projector lenses (7" ones are out there for cheap, check fleabay), and an HID kit (ballast and ignitor) with the correct bulb. These are fairly cheap as well. If you go this route, I would mount the box on the frame as they do get hot and I dont know how the aluminum would like it.

                              What Jac04 posted is a good, high quality, "plug and play" solution. However, for those on a budget, it can be done for significantly less.

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