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  • knac1234
    4th Gear
    • Nov 2010
    • 442

    Alpine roof reassembly guidance needed

    Hello all,

    So this weekend, or next at the latest, I should be reassembling the main roof to the gutter. That I understand how to do and have the adhesive and proper rivets.

    I need some guidance with the vent installation. I have pieces in bags that I have never seen together, so hence the question. The parts diagram helps, but it is still unclear to me.

    1. I believe the vent assembly is installed from the roof interior/underside of the roof with the round gasket in between? Riveted or screwed in place???

    2. The vent retaining rings (that mount against the headliner and fasten to the vent assembly).....riveted, or screwed in place?

    In the diagram there is a picture of a spring clip (with quantity 12 noted), but I cannot figure out in which location they go, not to mention the proper quantity needed for all 4 vents.

    Any help appreciated. I am usually good at this when I take something apart, but receiving it disassembled after a decade in storage......

    If anyone has done this and has step by step pictures, that would be even better!

    Cheers,
    Julian
    Julian
    72 Series III NAS
    03 Disco
    04 Freelander (sold, but still running strong)
    2011 LR2 (Fuji White/Tan....per the wife )
    65 MGB / 73 MGBGT
    71 RHD Hillman Super Imp
  • luckyjoe
    3rd Gear
    • Oct 2006
    • 335

    #2
    The roof to gutter is easy. After the roof and gutter surfaces were prepped, I supported the roof, inverted, on saw horses. Next I applied a bead of 3M marine adhesive, and with a helper, lowered the gutter onto the roof panel carefully aligning the holes. 10-32 bolts/nuts area perfect fit for the rivet holes, and were used to temporarily join the roof to gutter. Next we flipped it over, and began replacing bolts with rivets.
    Tom P.
    1965 exMoD 109
    1995 RRC LWB w/EAS

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    • knac1234
      4th Gear
      • Nov 2010
      • 442

      #3
      Thanks Tom.....

      Ordered the marine adhesive, which should be here tomorrow. Bolts are a good idea to hold it in place while riveting.

      More confused on the assembly of the vent components into the roof itself.....hoping for someone that has one and knows the answer or can take a peek under the retaining rings of the vents.

      Regards,
      Julian
      Julian
      72 Series III NAS
      03 Disco
      04 Freelander (sold, but still running strong)
      2011 LR2 (Fuji White/Tan....per the wife )
      65 MGB / 73 MGBGT
      71 RHD Hillman Super Imp

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      • luckyjoe
        3rd Gear
        • Oct 2006
        • 335

        #4
        No experience with the tropical vents.

        Check you local home center, mine stocks the 3M marine adhesive.
        Tom P.
        1965 exMoD 109
        1995 RRC LWB w/EAS

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        • Sputnicker
          1st Gear
          • May 2009
          • 105

          #5
          1. I believe the vent assembly is installed from the roof interior/underside of the roof with the round gasket in between? Riveted or screwed in place???

          2. The vent retaining rings (that mount against the headliner and fasten to the vent assembly).....riveted, or screwed in place?

          In the diagram there is a picture of a spring clip (with quantity 12 noted), but I cannot figure out in which location they go, not to mention the proper quantity needed for all 4 vents.
          I just did this on my top:

          1) Correct - they're installed from the underside. I bought the foam gaskets, but didn't like the fit. I used 3M Strip Calking instead, because it was similar to what was already there and I've always had god luck with it. I used screws (as did Land Rover). Rivets would probably work fine.

          2) Screws also on the oval vent rings.

          3) The spring clips (aka speed nuts) were attached to the front vents, which were deeper than the rear vents because of the depth of the headliner. Not sure if all the tropical tops had both depths. the 12 speed nuts secure the oval vent rings to these deeper vents.

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          • knac1234
            4th Gear
            • Nov 2010
            • 442

            #6
            Sputnicker-

            Thanks, that helps with the puzzle!

            From memory, 2 of the vents are indeed deeper, however I assumed they would go in the rear of the roof, since the roof line increases from front to back (at the half way point or so). I thought the deeper vents would need to hang down farther so that all 4 vents were the same height when the headliner is installed?????

            Julian
            Julian
            72 Series III NAS
            03 Disco
            04 Freelander (sold, but still running strong)
            2011 LR2 (Fuji White/Tan....per the wife )
            65 MGB / 73 MGBGT
            71 RHD Hillman Super Imp

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            • o2batsea
              Overdrive
              • Oct 2006
              • 1199

              #7
              If you use 3M 5200 you will never be able to separate the gutter from the roof ever again.
              I would recommend a sealant that can be removed. Good old DAP Alex plus is all you need, and you can clean it up with a wet sponge.

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              • ThorH
                Low Range
                • May 2011
                • 53

                #8
                Just took mine apart. The deeper vents definitely go to the front. The trim rings on the front vents were held on with the spring clips and screws, the rear trim rings were riveted.
                1973 SIII RHD 2.25 Petrol
                1992 RRC Hunter

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                • knac1234
                  4th Gear
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 442

                  #9
                  ThorH-

                  Thanks very much for the pics and insight...helps very much! I would never have thought the deeper vents went in the front!! It appears that the vent assembly is riveted from the outside top of the roof also (so, from the underside shown, vent assembly/gasket/roof underside and rivets coming in from the exterior/topside). I'll take any and all pics you have related to your disassembly if you could either post them or I can PM you with my email address I am looking forward to having this style roof on my 88.....something great about taking something stored on 2 separate pallets, and in bags in plastic bins, for 10-15 years and getting it back in service!!!

                  Julian
                  Julian
                  72 Series III NAS
                  03 Disco
                  04 Freelander (sold, but still running strong)
                  2011 LR2 (Fuji White/Tan....per the wife )
                  65 MGB / 73 MGBGT
                  71 RHD Hillman Super Imp

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                  • ThorH
                    Low Range
                    • May 2011
                    • 53

                    #10
                    Some of the rivets were from the inside and some were from the outside. I'll go back and see if I have a closer shot.

                    I can't wait till I'm on the re-assemble side of this project!
                    1973 SIII RHD 2.25 Petrol
                    1992 RRC Hunter

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                    • knac1234
                      4th Gear
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 442

                      #11
                      Thanks again Thor.....yes, I am avidly waiting to drive it again!! Hopefully first week of December.

                      Julian
                      Julian
                      72 Series III NAS
                      03 Disco
                      04 Freelander (sold, but still running strong)
                      2011 LR2 (Fuji White/Tan....per the wife )
                      65 MGB / 73 MGBGT
                      71 RHD Hillman Super Imp

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                      • ThorH
                        Low Range
                        • May 2011
                        • 53

                        #12
                        Well, this is a close as I can get. If you zoom it in, you can get a pretty good idea the directions of the rivets. You'll also note the rivets are the sealed type. Hope it helps!

                        -Thor
                        1973 SIII RHD 2.25 Petrol
                        1992 RRC Hunter

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