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  • artpeck
    3rd Gear
    • Dec 2009
    • 368

    Question about smoke on start up

    This is really just a question of curiosity more than anything else.

    When I start the engine after the truck has sat for awhile, usually a week or more, I get whitish blue smoke that then goes away quickly. I am not burning any oil of significant as the level is dead solid. Compression and oil pressure are at spec etc so I am assuming that this is the result of a small amount of oil getting into the cylinders. Would this be via the valve stems? There is probably a simple answer I am missing and again there doesn't seem to be any issue associated with it but also curious if I should be concerned about something I am missing.

    Thanks for the help.
    1995 NAS D-90 Soft Top, AA Yellow
    1973 Series III '88 Hard Top, Limestone
    1957 Series I, Deep bronze green
  • ybt502r
    Low Range
    • Oct 2007
    • 81

    #2
    White smoke ~ antifreeze
    Blue/gray smoke ~ oil
    Black smoke ~ fuel

    This was taught to me, and it's seemed to hold up. Have you checked your radiator level?
    77 88" SIII County SW
    82 Jp CJ8

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    • SafeAirOne
      Overdrive
      • Apr 2008
      • 3435

      #3
      Originally posted by artpeck
      I am assuming that this is the result of a small amount of oil getting into the cylinders. Would this be via the valve stems?
      That'd be my guess.
      --Mark

      1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

      0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
      (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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      • TeriAnn
        Overdrive
        • Nov 2006
        • 1087

        #4
        Originally posted by ybt502r
        White smoke ~ antifreeze
        If it goes away in about 15 minutes or less it is usually condensation within your exhaust system. If the air is moist water tends to condense inside your exhaust system. It gets ejected as steam as your exhaust system heats up next time. Especially visible on colder mornings.

        If the white smoke doesn't go away it is likely coolant from a bad head gasket or cracked head.

        Originally posted by ybt502r
        Blue/gray smoke ~ oil
        If your valve guides are worn a bit or if you have valve seals that are worn, oil from lubricating the valve train can flow down to the top of the valves. This is usually seen as a few seconds of gray smoke at start up then goes away. It is nothing to worry about and does not require immediate action. Just address the valve guide clearance during your next valve job and hope no green peace folks are looking at your truck at start up.

        If you have blue/gray smoke all the time you likely have worn and or broken piston rings and a ring job & possibly larger size pistons are called for. This is a real polluter situation and should be addressed as soon as possible.

        Originally posted by ybt502r
        Black smoke ~ fuel
        Sometimes seen if you over choke and engine at start up or forget to pull the choke in. Often times means you may be due for carb work. Check the float valve and float level after checking to make sure the choke is OK.
        -

        Teriann Wakeman_________
        Flagstaff, AZ.




        1960 Land Rover Dormobile, owned since 1978

        My Land Rover web site

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        • artpeck
          3rd Gear
          • Dec 2009
          • 368

          #5
          Thanks all. Appreciate the advice and knowledge. My radiator is fine and level hasnt changed. Appreciate the advice in the choke and carb. I have to choke the engine on every start up until it warms and have been meaning to work on the carb but haven't had the time to get on it. Sounds like it has risen to the top of the list.
          1995 NAS D-90 Soft Top, AA Yellow
          1973 Series III '88 Hard Top, Limestone
          1957 Series I, Deep bronze green

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          • singingcamel
            4th Gear
            • Oct 2006
            • 398

            #6
            Valve seals is my guess

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            • TedW
              5th Gear
              • Feb 2007
              • 887

              #7
              Originally posted by singingcamel
              Valve seals is my guess
              Yup. X2

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              • Billy5
                1st Gear
                • Aug 2010
                • 172

                #8
                Mine does the same thing. Stranger still is that it will only do it once in a while, after a short trip but only once. I can smell it, and it is oil. Does the exhaust smell " sweet"? If it does then its antifreeze.
                1969 Series 2a Bugeye

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                • artpeck
                  3rd Gear
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 368

                  #9
                  It is definitely oil. And only happens after the truck has been sitting for several days. And never burns oil after the first minute or so of running at the most which makes me pretty sure that it is seeping in while at rest.

                  It is also a very low mileage engine in the scheme of things as i bought it from the original owner who bought it new in 1972. His teenaged son drove it to school and back and as soon as he left for college it was stored and never driven since. Less than 30k on the clock.
                  1995 NAS D-90 Soft Top, AA Yellow
                  1973 Series III '88 Hard Top, Limestone
                  1957 Series I, Deep bronze green

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                  • Billy5
                    1st Gear
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 172

                    #10
                    I would say valve stem seals. Mine is lower milage too. Letting them sit isnt good I dont think. I use mine as a dd so for a truck thats been sitting/hardly used, I would imagine seals would not stand up. From what I understand, the seals are not the bad to replace.
                    1969 Series 2a Bugeye

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