.5 over bore on 2.25?

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  • bmohan55
    4th Gear
    • Sep 2008
    • 435

    .5 over bore on 2.25?

    Is this possible...or what I mean to ask "is this wise?" I went with a .03 over bore and read that .04 is the max one should do? I assumed that was due to cooling issues...educate me please.


    04 Disco, Gone-Disco died & so did mine
    '72 S3 88 - Leakey & Squeaky
  • rwollschlager
    5th Gear
    • Sep 2007
    • 583

    #2
    this may be a moot point but what units of measurement are you using? he's using millimeters and I'm assuming you're using inches?
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    67 SIIA 109
    82 SIII Stage 1 V8
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    • SafeAirOne
      Overdrive
      • Apr 2008
      • 3435

      #3
      Originally posted by rwollschlager
      this may be a moot point but what units of measurement are you using? he's using millimeters and I'm assuming you're using inches?
      ...which is +.020" so it's just fine.

      I believe that a half an inch (.5") is slightly more than the factory recommends a cylinder be overbored.
      --Mark

      1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

      0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
      (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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      • bmohan55
        4th Gear
        • Sep 2008
        • 435

        #4
        thanks, although I'm still far from "educated"!
        04 Disco, Gone-Disco died & so did mine
        '72 S3 88 - Leakey & Squeaky

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        • westcoastkevin
          1st Gear
          • Jan 2011
          • 162

          #5
          Sometimes, it comes down to what size pistons you can get. Sometimes, some piston sizes are way more expensive than others too.

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          • mongoswede
            5th Gear
            • May 2010
            • 757

            #6
            a friend had a custom set of pistons made up for a project...they cost $600 for the pistons and I think they came with some related parts too.

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            • gambrinus
              1st Gear
              • Jan 2007
              • 142

              #7
              You can usually get standard, .020 , .030 and .040 pistons...

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              • mearstrae
                5th Gear
                • Oct 2011
                • 592

                #8
                I think the issue is, "Why the .040 inch max overbore." Usually the engines water jacket sets the max overbore as well as clearance issues within the engine block and on the cylinder head. Also, as mentioned if you did decide to go over to say, .050 inches, pistons would be very costly and run a risk of ruining the engine. You may read of racing engines with wild overbores, but they are specially constucted to allow, in some cases,.100 overbores.

                '95 R.R. Classic Lwb
                '76 Series III hybrid 109
                '70 Rover 3500S

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                • Regan
                  Low Range
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 35

                  #9
                  I just had my 2.25 rebuilt and had to go 0.60 over. parts are rare and had to come from England. I was tol this is the max and certainly it can be done, as I am driving it, no problems. Part are hard to get, but still avaiable or was 6 months ago. We had to go this large when we found out that the engine was rebuilt once before and bored out to 0.30 or 0.40. I can put you in touch with person should you need this larger size.

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                  • mongoswede
                    5th Gear
                    • May 2010
                    • 757

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Regan
                    I just had my 2.25 rebuilt and had to go 0.60 over. parts are rare and had to come from England. I was tol this is the max and certainly it can be done, as I am driving it, no problems. Part are hard to get, but still avaiable or was 6 months ago. We had to go this large when we found out that the engine was rebuilt once before and bored out to 0.30 or 0.40. I can put you in touch with person should you need this larger size.

                    You are close but your actual numbers are .060", .030", and .040". 0.60" over is more than half an inch diameter increase on every cylinder. If you went this much you would cut right through the cylinder walls into the water jackets and you would likely be into the adjacent combustion chamber.

                    I suspect that your engine rebuilder did not go an additional .060 (sixty thousandths) over the first .030 (thirty thousandths) but was a total of 060" over stock.

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                    • bmohan55
                      4th Gear
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 435

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Regan
                      I just had my 2.25 rebuilt and had to go 0.60 over. parts are rare and had to come from England. I was tol this is the max and certainly it can be done, as I am driving it, no problems. Part are hard to get, but still avaiable or was 6 months ago. We had to go this large when we found out that the engine was rebuilt once before and bored out to 0.30 or 0.40. I can put you in touch with person should you need this larger size.
                      I was told that if you need to go further than .04 it's better to re-sleeve the cylinders. Not wishing any bad karma on you but it seemed to make sense to me. MY .03's are in already and I'm in the final stages of buttoning it up.
                      04 Disco, Gone-Disco died & so did mine
                      '72 S3 88 - Leakey & Squeaky

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                      • mongoswede
                        5th Gear
                        • May 2010
                        • 757

                        #12
                        major overboring reduces the thickness of the cylinder walls which in turn changes the way that heat is transfered around the engine. There is also less wall there to deal with combustion. If the walls are too thin you could actually crack the block or experience increased blowbye due to changes in bore expansion etc. Hence the resleave suggestion.

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                        • Regan
                          Low Range
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 35

                          #13
                          In regards to my orginal post and 0.60 over, what I meant to say is that it was boared to .60 total over stock. This is the max you can go, I am told from over the pond and geting parts was hard. Right now, I have 600 miles on the rebuild and the 2.25L, with HO head and other goodies, it running as good as it gets. It was running a little hot, but I did add an A/C and evaporator/condensor, restricting air into radiator. We fixed than with a larger aux. fan and everything thing is going well now. Rear axle failed and front wheel drive does not work, but that's another story.

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                          • mearstrae
                            5th Gear
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 592

                            #14
                            I think you keep meaning to state .060" total over bore. .60 is approaching 5/8 of an inch, way too much for any overbore in anything. When someone says, "It's sixty over." it means sixty thousandths.

                            '95 R.R. Classic LWB
                            '76 SeriesIII Hybrid 109
                            '70 Rover 3500S
                            Last edited by mearstrae; 12-22-2011, 05:39 PM. Reason: wrong fraction

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                            • dabawei
                              Low Range
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 57

                              #15
                              Hi,
                              As I am new in this busniess, this activity end up in bigger pistons size?

                              Q. Can 2.5L engine piston fit in 2.25L engine After modification?

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