Removing/by-passing ABS on 95 RRC?

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  • REDrum
    1st Gear
    • Nov 2011
    • 175

    Removing/by-passing ABS on 95 RRC?

    Doable?

    Although the ABS and TC has its moments of utility, for most part I can do without. Even more so since this truck will be off road 75% of its use time. I have been able to by-pass and remove ABS systems on Subaru (for rally cars), but I have no idea what it would take to remove ABS on a RRC. My ABS system is wonky (yes all three lights are on: brake, ABS, and TC) and I was wondering if/what others have done to by-pass the OEM ABS.

    Anyone know if it has been done? If so, was it a moderate or extensive (PITA) undertaking?

    I'm thinking 500 bucks can buy a lot AN3 fittings, brake line, and resistors to keep from throwing codes... Obviously I don't care about keeping stock integrity.

    I've searched a bit, but found nothing on removing, only replace ABS. If ya gots stories please share'm.
    The Toltec Coffee fleet....
    96 FZJ80: 3XL, lifted, and shaved
    94 FZJ 80: our Costa Rican coffee and surf mobile
    70 Series IIA 88: After 18 months of wrenching, its alive and legal to drive!
    70 Series IIA 88: in US on H-1B visa
    56 Series I 86: a whole new type of rover hell....
  • o2batsea
    Overdrive
    • Oct 2006
    • 1199

    #2
    Yes, but you have to remove all the ABS schmidt, replace the ABS master cylinder with a pre-ABS pedal/tower, booster and MC. Then you replumb the brake lines, bleed and go on your way.

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    • antichrist
      2nd Gear
      • Mar 2009
      • 272

      #3
      I'm not familiar with the RRC braking system, but is the ABS MC that much different from the non-ABS MC? On the '95 Disco even though Rover specs a different MC between the ABS and non-ABS a number of people have removed the ABS pump but used the same MC without issue. Of course the Disco doesn't have TC so maybe that makes a bigger difference.
      Last edited by antichrist; 02-02-2013, 10:02 AM.
      Tom Rowe

      Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck
      in places even more inaccessible.

      62 88 reg
      67 NADA x2
      74 Air Portable - The Antichrist (tag 6A666)
      95 D1 - R380
      95 D90 - R380
      97 D1 - ZF

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      • Paul Grant
        Low Range
        • Oct 2006
        • 57

        #4
        Night and day difference between the RRC and DI braking systems. Think cost no object versus built to a price point. There's a reason the ABS block on a RRC costs around $3K whereas the DI is about half that cost. When Rover decided to be the first ever manufacturer to offer ABS on a full time four wheel drive passenger vehicle they spared little expense in doing so. It's no so simple as removing the pump or pulling a fuse. It's major surgery.
        paulgrant@mac.com
        203-770-1699

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        • antichrist
          2nd Gear
          • Mar 2009
          • 272

          #5
          Is the RRC ABS tied in to engine management the way it is on later the Discovery? I can't see that it is, but then I didn't look in detail. I do see that the RRC and D1 systems are not at all alike.
          It does look like you'd have to replace the MC and maybe booster, but it looks more like a matter of having to remove a lot of stuff, or at least disconnect it, and install a non-ABS pressure reducing valve.
          Tom Rowe

          Four wheel drive allows you to get stuck
          in places even more inaccessible.

          62 88 reg
          67 NADA x2
          74 Air Portable - The Antichrist (tag 6A666)
          95 D1 - R380
          95 D90 - R380
          97 D1 - ZF

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          • REDrum
            1st Gear
            • Nov 2011
            • 175

            #6
            Originally posted by Paul Grant
            When Rover decided to be the first ever manufacturer to offer ABS on a full time four wheel drive passenger vehicle they spared little expense in doing so. It's no so simple as removing the pump or pulling a fuse. It's major surgery.
            Was afraid of that... On the '95 RRC I have too many features, on my '76 SIII I have too few....perhaps I need to exchange them for an '85 110 Country.... Will keep this thread posted on what I end up doing with the RRC ABS.

            Paul: do you take direct deposit from my employer?
            Last edited by REDrum; 02-02-2013, 11:48 PM.
            The Toltec Coffee fleet....
            96 FZJ80: 3XL, lifted, and shaved
            94 FZJ 80: our Costa Rican coffee and surf mobile
            70 Series IIA 88: After 18 months of wrenching, its alive and legal to drive!
            70 Series IIA 88: in US on H-1B visa
            56 Series I 86: a whole new type of rover hell....

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            • Boston
              1st Gear
              • Feb 2010
              • 151

              #7
              Probably easier to remove those warning light bulbs

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              • REDrum
                1st Gear
                • Nov 2011
                • 175

                #8
                So, I'm going the rebuild the ABS route instead of by-pass the ABS route. Got a very good deal on a NIB ABS pump.
                The Toltec Coffee fleet....
                96 FZJ80: 3XL, lifted, and shaved
                94 FZJ 80: our Costa Rican coffee and surf mobile
                70 Series IIA 88: After 18 months of wrenching, its alive and legal to drive!
                70 Series IIA 88: in US on H-1B visa
                56 Series I 86: a whole new type of rover hell....

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