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    My first post here...

    I've got a '69 Series IIa 12 passenger 109 Safari (original 12 passenger Safari) with no engine. I've got a '90 RR chassis, and the goal is a hybrid that looks as close to the original 109 as possible.

    I picked up an electric fan setup from another vehicle -- I don't recall from what, but it's a modern twin fan unit that seems to be high quality. For someone doing a "budget" build, that may be an option.

    Not meaning to hijack CliftonRover's thread, but is there any way to do a V8 powered hybrid build without resorting to a Defender nose?

    My "hybrid" parts collection is the '90 Rover with a 3.9, an LT-77 and LT-230 from a Discovery. In addition to the hybrid project, we've got an '87 Rangie, a '96 Disco, and a Triumph TR-8 coupe (Rover in engine only).

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    Quote Originally Posted by KMW
    My first post here...

    I've got a '69 Series IIa 12 passenger 109 Safari (original 12 passenger Safari) with no engine. I've got a '90 RR chassis, and the goal is a hybrid that looks as close to the original 109 as possible.

    I picked up an electric fan setup from another vehicle -- I don't recall from what, but it's a modern twin fan unit that seems to be high quality. For someone doing a "budget" build, that may be an option.

    Not meaning to hijack CliftonRover's thread, but is there any way to do a V8 powered hybrid build without resorting to a Defender nose?

    My "hybrid" parts collection is the '90 Rover with a 3.9, an LT-77 and LT-230 from a Discovery. In addition to the hybrid project, we've got an '87 Rangie, a '96 Disco, and a Triumph TR-8 coupe (Rover in engine only).
    Not my website, but you may find this interesting... http://www.estes.com/gallery/view_al...Name=LandRover

    I did something similar with my 109, but unfortunately didn't take any photos of the build. Your collection of parts sounds fine with the exception of the V8 LT-77. If you want to retain the stock front end of the Series (recessed grill), you will need to source a 4 cylinder LT-77 or R380 & get an adapter plate to the V8. Good luck - make sure to post photos of your progress.

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    I have a D90 3.9 V8 and R380 with RR axles on a 109 leaf spring chassis. I kept the SIIA recessed grill. There is not enough room for a mechanical fan, but I use one electric pusher and one electric puller with an oversized radiator for cooling.

    Bob
    Last edited by siiirhd88; 12-21-2009 at 06:47 PM.

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    Thanks for the info guys. The fellow with the truck on the link that Mogly406 posted also gave me some great info. What's the difference between the four cylinder and V8 LT77s? My only experience with that transmission family is from the TR8/MGB V8 world.

    siiirhd88, what fender flares did you use? I love that look, it seems a lot of hybrids have more exaggerated flares, but yours are more fitting to the simple lines of a series truck.

    Oh, CliftonRover -- one thing to think about when setting up fan to radiator clearance is your likelihood of encountering water crossings. When I campaigned a rally car common occurance was guys having their fans too close, and when they hit a water crossing the fan blades would get sucked into the radiator; nothing like a DNF to make your day.

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    The biggest difference between an LT-77 for a 4 cylinder and 8 cylinder is the length of the bell housing. The 4 cyl version is quite a bit shorter and will enable you to keep your grill recessed for the Series look w/o putting the gear shift into the seatbox. Attached is a photo of my 109 just after I finished building it - it will give you an idea of the look without fender flares.

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    KMW,

    I can't recall the maker of the rubber fender flares on the 109. They were purchased from Summit, and are secured by screws to the lip on the wheel arch. If I find the old box I will let you know the maker.

    I think the very early narrow 109 16 inch wheels are offset enough to keep the tire edge just inside the original wheel arch. The wheels on our 109 are 7 inch wide steel Disco wheels and had too much spatter without the flares.

    Bob

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    Hi CliftonRover,
    I believe we have talked in the past, its been a while though. JC Whitney has flares that don't cost an arm and a leg. Summit Racing has a nice fan set-up, two fans with a schroud. Various sizes. I used these fans with no problem. Fans are thermostat controled and have an overide switch for fording water so they don't spray the engine. I also mounted the air conditioning fans on the outside as pushers with only an on off switch, I have not needed to turn these on no matter how hot it gets.

    Paul








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    Quote Originally Posted by Mogly406
    Not my website, but you may find this interesting... http://www.estes.com/gallery/view_al...Name=LandRover
    Hi... That's my site... FYI - I moved it from the server in my basement and put it on Flickr:

    http://tinyurl.com/yv45gq

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    Hey I like the tilt front cap, was it hard to get to work?
    How do you spread the bottom rear to clear the bulkhead?

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