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Where does one find a good used 200tdi at a reasonable price (<$1,500) on this side of the pond? Or across the pond, for that matter?
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Where does the figure of $1500.00 come from?
You may find a Discovery 200TDi for this fiqure, it would probably need some work doing to it. Such as new rings/bearings/gaskets.
Bear in mind that any 200Tdi was only production fitted from 1989 to 1993 and that production of the engine ended nearly 20 years ago !Les Parker
Tech. Support and Parts Specialist
Rovers North Inc.
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Does sound quite low...I was allocating around $5k for a nice 200TDi...Comment
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Well, that's not particularly good news but your statement about there only being about 4 years of production, coupled with the fact that they were installed in very few, if any, vehicles exported to the USA, explains the relatively high prices for good used ones. I think my research turned up someone, maybe in Georgia somewhere, that sells a kit including a good used motor, to install a 200tdi in a Series for around $5,500 not counting freight. Sounds like that may be about right. What about the 300tdi? Would it be any better?Comment
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Well the 300TDi was used from 1994, to 2006...so yes there's a good chance you'll find one. They're not cheap either however.Comment
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In the UK I'm paying $5k for a 200/300tdi conversion with all the extra bits.Comment
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Derek, is that what you are paying to have the conversion done to a vehicle (that could have been built that way) in the UK before it is shipped here? If so, that's not bad considering that's a little less than what the parts alone are going for here. Or did I misunderstand what you are saying?Comment
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That's with the engine and conversion completed in the UK. Before you ask I do not source engines. It's just what I pay to get a clients Defender converted over to Tdi specs.
A is Tdi conversion in the states would be around $12k with engine, parts and labor. This is assuming you can find the parts and engine in the UK at a good price and ship them.Comment
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Derek, Thanks for the heads up. I'm not sure I'd want to spend $12k convert a 95 Discovery, maybe a Defender, but it would take a long time to get it back in mpg's. I did find this on ebay which would save the UK part and perhaps simplify the process. Probably still cost about as much as you estimated though.
With mil spec 6.2 diesels being considerably less (<$1,000 sometimes); that's an interesting, if somewhat more complicated, alternative. Any experience with one of those?Comment
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I would think very carefully before buying an engine off eBay. It's very hard to really know what your getting. You will find loads of horror stories on rover forums.
I just sold the 6.2 GMC deisel we had in stock. It was amazing in the power and mpg department. I like to a lot more the the Tdi. No idea of how to go about the conversion as that's not what I do. I did however really like the engine.
DerekComment
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Be very careful about buying from the UK, and Land Rover wreckers in particular. I got screwed by a UK wrecker, Defender 300TDI, R380 setup and rust free bulhead paid for, he closed up business almost before the check cleared! I would recommend buying from a reputable company or broker. I have heard from more than one company in the UK that most people over there list on EBay what they can't sell locally because it is trash.Comment
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I hate to say it but many sellers in the U.K. can smell an American wallet coming from a mile away. many prices seem inflated to an American purchaser unless it is a very honest and moral seller/mechanic. I know those in the U.K. looking for the same 200tdi installed are not paying $5000. Not even for a defender 200tdi installed with all the extras. It can be done a LOT cheaper than that.1973 NADA 88Comment
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It can e done a lot cheaper if your willing to use a high milage engine, old parts, and a piss poor conversion shop. Also the Tdi's are getting a lot harder to find. It's a supply and demand problem right now. You can do it for as little as $1,000 how ever like most things Rover related you get what you pay for.Comment
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Derek, the 6.2 diesel you just sold was not in a Landrover was it?
From what I've learned here and on other forums is that the 6.2 is a great swap in many respects. The mil-spec 6.2's (so-called J code) are plentiful (i.e., cheap), often <50k miles because they mostly come from having been removed from Hummers in favor of a 6.5 installation (that source will eventually dry up I guess but right now there are plenty being dumped by the military), parts are easy to obtain and they are not as good for many applications where greater power is desired because later 6.5's are a good deal better and are bolt-ins. From what I can tell, the biggest challenge in using a 6.2 for increased mpg's is bringing the vehicle's gearing into the 6.2's sweet spot (it develops max torque at about 1,900 rpm) at the desired road speed. In one example of either a Discovery I or a RRC that I know of, a guy went so far as to install a GM 6 speed tranny (the one the Corvette uses, I think) in order to get to the 1,900 rpm range at 75 mph - the result was +/- 30 mpg at that speed and the end of his cooling problems.
6.2's into Series LR's is problematic from a space standpoint - it's been done; I can't find the link presently, but I found a step-by-step documentary of the swap. He got it in there, but he had to cut up the bulkhead and invade the cab slightly as well as move the grill forward like a Defender which gave up too much of the Series look to my mind.
What the world needs is a V-6 or in-line 4 diesel that's short enough to fit a Series nicely and generates its power at around 2,200-2,400 rpm. Oh, and it needs to not vibrate too much, be plentiful enough in the US to cost $1,000 or less in good used condition, and have most parts off the shelf at NAPA! Anyone know of such a thing?Comment
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