Cost of 300tdi/R380 install?

[daveb]

To my knowledge Turner sells blocks,long blocks, and cylinder heads for use as replacements but no complete running units with all ancillarys for diesel conversions as per this thread.
M&D http://www.mdengineering.co.uk/ is the premier kit exporter in the UK.

I believe that is correct. Not to mention a certain cylinder head that had a .002" step machined right down the middle of it. That was "within spec" according to the fine folks at Turner. Oops I said I was gonna keep my mouth shut. Ah well, that was over 10 years ago...

[Maryland 110]

Zooropa,

just to show that all engines from the UK aren't junked motors. These guys http://www.turner-engineering.co.uk/index.html do rebuilt engines running from £1950 exchange (about $3000). Obviously you would have to ask them about a non exchange engine but they do ship world wide. They have an excellent reputation for quality here in the UK.They also do perfomance cylinder heads which again have a great reputation. I don't know anything about import regs into the US so that'll have to be something you work out.

All the best

kyle

To my knowledge Turner sells blocks,long blocks, and cylinder heads for use as replacements but no complete running units with all ancillarys for diesel conversions as per this thread.
M&D http://www.mdengineering.co.uk/ is the premier kit exporter in the UK.

[kylepres]

One of the drawbacks of obtaining major units from the UK is warranty.
Our experience has been that many suppliers are reluctant to follow up with after sales service.
RN stands by their products, I am sure their are folks on this BBS who will chime in with their own feedback on this.

2p

Les, like you mentioned, warranty support may not exist but whether or not that is needed, well that's something for the individual to decide. That's the beauty of living in America!

regards

Kyle

[daveb]

I am sure their are folks on this BBS who will chime in with their own feedback on this.

Its tempting but I will keep my mouth shut

[Les Parker]

One of the drawbacks of obtaining major units from the UK is warranty.
Our experience has been that many suppliers are reluctant to follow up with after sales service.
RN stands by their products, I am sure their are folks on this BBS who will chime in with their own feedback on this.

2p

[kylepres]

Zooropa,

just to show that all engines from the UK aren't junked motors. These guys http://www.turner-engineering.co.uk/index.html do rebuilt engines running from £1950 exchange (about $3000). Obviously you would have to ask them about a non exchange engine but they do ship world wide. They have an excellent reputation for quality here in the UK.They also do perfomance cylinder heads which again have a great reputation. I don't know anything about import regs into the US so that'll have to be something you work out.

All the best

kyle

[junkyddog11]

I got a claw hammer from Home de pot to fit once. it went through the Birmabrite like butter. Left it for several weeks before filling hole with V8 oil fill cap. (yup, back to genuine parts)

[daveb]

Good luck, but don't come back claiming victory if you do a cheap install and have any parts from Home Depot or Lowe's under the hood.

Jim that's too funny. Try as I might, I can never get the parts from Home Depot to fit.

[JimC]

There is no way to inoculate yourself against unexpected expenditures by reading web advice, even advice from the very-qualified. If you've never done or budgeted for a big project before (on your car, your house, your lawn, whatever) then you are going to mess up the cost and time estimate. Even pros have cost overruns all the time, its nothing to be ashamed of, but its something that should be understood. Bottom line: Once you figure out what you think your cost will be for the project, don't bother starting unless you can afford to spend at least twice that figure.

That being said, you can substitute your time for $$ in some cases - i.e take a drive shaft out and have it shortened for a hundred bucks instead of buying replacements etc. But then of course you have to know what dimensions you need etc.

Good luck, but don't come back claiming victory if you do a cheap install and have any parts from Home Depot or Lowe's under the hood.

Now its my turn end a mildly insulting message with a smiley

[Maryland 110]

some US owners on a US overland site reported this week the following;

low to mid 20s on a Defender 130 @ 65mph, 300tdi

That was me before tweaking the pump for more torque

65 seems to be that magic number where economy drops dramatically. The engine will cheerfully catepult you down the road faster..

[Maryland 110]

Not sure where the floods of 200 and 300 tdi engines are coming from or who is getting them in, or if its even happening, but keep in mind these engines are not approved by the epa and are therefore not legal for highway use in the US. I think sending $3k to some dude in the UK for a clapped out engine with a salt rotted radiator, from a car with unknown milage (funny how they always state its 80-100k miles) is a case of fool and his money easliy parted-but most of us have taken the risk and thats the only way it happens cheap. Why is because LRNA never tried to offer them and never petitioned to have them approved. A 1989 200 tdi is a legal engine this year (epa 21yr rule)- but it cannot be in a 1985 110 when imported as the original engine is supposed to be in that truck for it to be a legal import per the letter of the law. Don't mean to sound negative but like Carey,Matt, and Dave, I think you have the wrong impressions. All four of us have spent a ton of time with these engines. Also the 200 and 300 Tdi's are exactly the same size and displacements, one is mounted further forward because of the transmission inputshaft/bellhousing length than the other. BTW Daves backyard install rivals my factory one....oooopps.

[Moose]

I got a pretty good deal on my 300Tdi and R380 gearbox. Cost me £900 for the pair complete with everything else I needed to stuff them into my 110. Took a bit of a chance on the sellers claim that all was good, and luckily it turned out well. Shipping to Halifax was about $400. Shipping to me in Ontario was another $150. I bought a timing belt kit and a complete exhaust system. Also got a block heater. Couple buddies and I installed it and that cost me a couple lunches and a dinners. So for a bit less then 3 grand, I think I did pretty well. Then I was able to recoup a nice amount selling the short bell housing R380 I removed from my truck. Could have got more back but held on to the 2.5 NA diesel engine for my series.

So yeah, if you are lucky, it can be done for a reasonable cost. Certainly helps if you are fairly handy and have some switched on Land Rover friends willing to help out.

Engine has been in the 110 for two years now as of this weekend.

Brett

[Terrys]

I did not know that. How is the wetness measured?

In MUs (Misery Units)

[daveb]

I did not know that. How is the wetness measured?

They're also a fair bit wetter, which also helps when computing MPG.

[gambrinus]

Also UK gallons are a bit bigger...

They're also a fair bit wetter, which also helps when computing MPG.