what were they thinking?

[bobzinak]

#1 why put odometers that go up to a million miles when most speeedos don't last to 100,000 mi.
#2 I think that put bigger one piece windshields so that the wiper could overlap and give much better viewing through the windshield, and had to raise the windshield up to allow wiper clearance.
#3 early defender both door windows slid, you had a choice open in front, open in back. I put on some defender rain shields and can open up the front glass panel and it creates a nice vacuum in the cab, sucking out the interior air.
#4 shiny rovers hurt my eyes.
wiring is funky and as any one can tell you who has owned any british leyland product, the bullets on the end of the wires break off when you try to remove them from the connectors, which also corrode and split, amking it a pain to trace down problems.
#5 One of my biggest peeves if having to remove the floor panels to access the transmission, several times I have broken my shift lever, if i'm lucky it will be in third or forth and I can shift from low rangew to high range to get me somewhere to fix it. i finall adapted the tunnel to mount on top of the floor panels, so all I have to do is take out some of the large floor screws to get at the top of the transmission. It can be really hard to get the panel to lift past the break pedal without taking more stuff apart.
#6 don't even get me started on some of the places they put withworth nuts and bolt, I can deal with them on the tranny, but the ones holding on the swivel balls to the axle are a real pain in the ass. the brass one on the original starter cable is just dam inconvinient..
my two cents...rove on, bobzinak

[Alaskan Rover]

Or are you asking for a carb that can make ice?

I think a carburetor that makes frozen margaritas would actually be much more popular....especially in THIS weather!!

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[4flattires]

I kinda like the wire insulation choices they made. Some plastic, some braided cloth covered, all on the same vehicle. I especially enjoy the disappearing braided cloth color along with the invisible trace color (if there even was one). You can find those coverings in the deepest, darkest, least UV-penetrating-undercover-shielded-from-gamma-rays-impervious-to-oxizidation locations.....and STILL....that wire insulation will be all white.

Ahhhh...the joys of mastering a DVOM via vehicle ownership.

[JimCT]

Tractors

Give LR a break! These are glorified tractors with windscreens and doors. Buy a RR if you want the comforts of home!

I kinda like the wire insulation choices they made. Some plastic, some braided cloth covered, all on the same vehicle. I especially enjoy the disappearing braided cloth color along with the invisible trace color (if there even was one). You can find those coverings in the deepest, darkest, least UV-penetrating-undercover-shielded-from-gamma-rays-impervious-to-oxizidation locations.....and STILL....that wire insulation will be all white.

Ahhhh...the joys of mastering a DVOM via vehicle ownership.

[mearstrae]

You get the same troubles with a Rangie, it's just that more hi-tech ones are included free. And all these crappie parts are by Order of the Queen and the Trade Unions, or so I'm told (Why else would British cars still use real wood and Lucas parts?). It's not Land Rover's fault, really....

'95 R.R.C. Lwb
'76 Series III Hybrid 109
'70 Rover 3500S

[flighht2k5]

Give LR a break! These are glorified tractors with windscreens and doors. Buy a RR if you want the comforts of home!

A Unimog is a glorified tractor


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[JimCT]

tractors

I like tractors, have a 1953 Ford Jubilee and a 1956 Farmall 140, and have always had a LR

A Unimog is a glorified tractor


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[mearstrae]

Unimog's are listed as tractors, (I've seen the shipping documents for a friend's Unimog, and he had a time convincing PennDOT that it wasn't a German Farmall...) and Land Rovers aren't. Pretty much the only difference. These Series LR's get the job done, and are simple and tough. Modern Jeeps they are not.

'95 R.R.C. Lwb
'76 Series III Hybrid 109
'70 Rover 3500S

[flighht2k5]

Unimog's are listed as tractors, (I've seen the shipping documents for a friend's Unimog, and he had a time convincing PennDOT that it wasn't a German Farmall...) and Land Rovers aren't. Pretty much the only difference. These Series LR's get the job done, and are simple and tough. Modern Jeeps they are not.

'95 R.R.C. Lwb
'76 Series III Hybrid 109
'70 Rover 3500S

I like land rovers, but there is a huge difference between a Unimog and a land rover. Because rovers may have been marketed as a tractor doesn't make it an efficient one. They are not built heavy enough for day to day operations as one. Just as when keeps first came out.


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[mearstrae]

Sorry, I wasn't clear on that. The first land Rover were marketed as a farm truck (after WWII), with implements available for farming: ploughs, harrows, saw mills, welding stations, brush cutters, etc. A Unimog is definately not the same as a LR, I just meant that it was a similar concept.

'95 R.R.C. Lwb
'76 Series III Hybrid 109
'70 Rover 3500S