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  • alaskantinbender
    Low Range
    • Dec 2012
    • 52

    Terminology question.

    So what makes a rover a wagon? 4 doors in the case of a 109? And then what about an 88? The addition of rear seats?
    1963 Series 11A 109, Left hand drive, Koneg PTO winch, ACR 2.8L 5 bearing power plus Engine with weber carb. Truetrac gear driven limited-slip traction rear differential.
  • I Leak Oil
    Overdrive
    • Nov 2006
    • 1796

    #2
    I believe it's the tropical top, jump seats, 1 piece rear door and badging.
    Jason
    "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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    • stomper
      5th Gear
      • Apr 2007
      • 889

      #3
      and deluxe trim, deluxe bonnet.
      Bad gas mileage gets you to some of the greatest places on earth.

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      • JSBriggs
        1st Gear
        • Dec 2006
        • 111

        #4
        Windows in the side of a metal top make it a wagon. No windows and it a 'hard top' or a 'van'. Wheelbase doesn't matter.

        -Jeff

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        • o2batsea
          Overdrive
          • Oct 2006
          • 1199

          #5
          Plus side steps and rear step, tub side does not have tabs for soft top tie down, badges that say 4 wheel drive station wagon, door cards with arm rest and pockets, full interior trim, Full rear door with inside opening handle +trim and pull handle, fold up rear cargo area seats, mats, (usually) mud flaps, headlining, Smiths round heater, rounded deluxe bonnet with dish for spare, rounded apron panel below the breakfast. No hinge brackets on rear crossmember. 16 inch wheels. Sliding rear windows. On 109 inch 5 door models, side steps on middle doors. Deep sills. As mentioned the alpine windows, roof vents and sunsheet on the coachroof. Body, wheels and coachroof sides (sometimes) painted two tone. Marine Blue and Limestone seeming to be the exception on later trucks where the body and roof sides were all one color, but with limestone wheels. Coachroof almost always painted white or limestone. I haven't seen any poppy red pastel green or bronze green wagons with body color roof sides, but I'm sure they did come that way.
          I'm probably missing a few things.

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          • stomper
            5th Gear
            • Apr 2007
            • 889

            #6
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            Now you have seen a pastel green one.
            Bad gas mileage gets you to some of the greatest places on earth.

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            • I Leak Oil
              Overdrive
              • Nov 2006
              • 1796

              #7
              Is the wheel barrow to haul all the spare parts in?
              Jason
              "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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              • Jim-ME
                Overdrive
                • Oct 2006
                • 1379

                #8
                Always need to be prepared.

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                • o2batsea
                  Overdrive
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 1199

                  #9
                  Now you have seen a pastel green one.
                  Well, maybe. There are lots of clues that lead me to think that it was not a wagon to begin with. It has been painted at least once since new, so there's no way to tell if it came from Solihull as a wagon or a regular.

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                  • I Leak Oil
                    Overdrive
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 1796

                    #10
                    Don't do it James! Just think about the nice cold ones this weekend instead.
                    Jason
                    "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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                    • stomper
                      5th Gear
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 889

                      #11
                      Originally posted by I Leak Oil
                      Don't do it James! Just think about the nice cold ones this weekend instead.
                      LOL, yes, they will taste good too! Perhaps I will bring my wheel barrow to haul my 24 pack from the truck to the camp fire, and around the campsite!
                      Bad gas mileage gets you to some of the greatest places on earth.

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                      • ignotus
                        2nd Gear
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 237

                        #12
                        Hi,

                        To the best of my recollection the Station Wagon designation came about when the tax situation changed in the UK regarding, cars/utilities/station wagon. Rover figured that when the tax changed(up of course) on the Land Rovers they could add more seats and change the designation from car to station wagon since the station wagon had less tax it made it more desireable a purchase for the fellows in Blighty. As a station wagon it had to have more "deluxe" styling cues.

                        gene
                        1960 "bitsa" 88--Ignotus
                        1960 109, 200TDI
                        rebuild blog; http://poppageno.blogspot.com/

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                        • JSBriggs
                          1st Gear
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 111

                          #13


                          This 1960 brochure should help with terminology.

                          -Jeff

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