Doing the Brakes - Easy Job?

[Bostonian1976]

my point exactly. young man, you ought to have one.

I know

Spending money on other things...need to get one

[jp-]

I find that the only thing I really need my manual for these days is torque specs, and sometimes those aren't even listed!

[daveb]

yes, but you don't post asking how to install the brake shoes. The series trucks are pretty simple and you don't need the manual once you've been around one for a while. I do consult mine when tearing into gearboxes and the like, they tend to be full of valuable information. (go figure)

if there is no torque spec in the IIa guide I go and look in the SIII book. If there is none there, it just gets "tight"

I find that the only thing I really need my manual for these days is torque specs, and sometimes those aren't even listed!

[Bostonian1976]

yes, but you don't post asking how to install the brake shoes. The series trucks are pretty simple and you don't need the manual once you've been around one for a while.

only been around one for 3 years. and since my Rover isn't kept near me, I need to plan out my repair time and want to be sure I've covered all bases before starting the job, since I don't have a garage etc that I can leisurely work on it. so - that's why you see me posting things like this....

it's like those 'the more you know' commercials....

[scott]

a bleeding tip. i use a really long peice of clear tubing. long enough to go from the right rear bleeder to the resevior. a big binder type paper clip to hold the resevior end on so the it stays submerged. open the bleeder valve, grab a beer, and just sit there pumping 'til no more bubbles pass by.

[Bostonian1976]

ok got them all pulled apart - drums are like new, plenty of pad left on the shoes.

Driver's side brake was full of oil and goop....

passenger's completely dry

could this good be causing a 'shudder' that is pretty severe that sounds like metal on metal brakes almost when the brakes are applied (2nd pump)?

and what seal do I need for the hub to prevent further leakage into the brake? seems like an inner seal..

[pvkd]

You need a hub seal and likely a new Race. The only way you know is when you pull the hub off you can inspect the race on the spindle and see if it has a small groove in it (a flash light held at a angle can help you see this).

You may as well order a seal kit fro our hosts that way you will have the lock washer and felt seal.

[Jim-ME]

Make sure your breather on your axle is clear. It should rattle. If it doesn't I've had good luck cleaning them out with Gun Scrubber or brake cleaner. Also make sure to hole in the axle tube is clear or you will just blow another seal.
Jim

[Bostonian1976]

meh - note to self: don't hold the brake shoe away from the wheel cylinder for too long or the little flathead piece pops out, followed by the rubber piece that seals the brake system. I caught it just in time, but still think I got a little air in the system....

[Donnie]

a bleeding tip. i use a really long peice of clear tubing. long enough to go from the right rear bleeder to the resevior. a big binder type paper clip to hold the resevior end on so the it stays submerged. open the bleeder valve, grab a beer, and just sit there pumping 'til no more bubbles pass by.

While we are speaking of bleeding brakes...............I'd like to get a grip on the person that decided that 2 wheel cyls. per wheel was a better design, especially since the bleeder is on the BOTTOM cyl>>>>>>>anyone???

[yorker]

While we are speaking of bleeding brakes...............I'd like to get a grip on the person that decided that 2 wheel cyls. per wheel was a better design, especially since the bleeder is on the BOTTOM cyl>>>>>>>anyone???

swap them around:

http://gunsandrovers.yuku.com/topic/1914

http://gunsandrovers.yuku.com/topic/1985

[thixon]

swap them around:

http://gunsandrovers.yuku.com/topic/1914

http://gunsandrovers.yuku.com/topic/1985

Thanks Yorker,

that's the difference I was trying to remember early in the this thread. I've never owned a 109, but helped a guy near me do his brakes once years ago. All I remembered was that something about it pissed me off.

Bostonian,
If you don't already have one, go get and easy-bleed from NAPA/autozone/O'reilys etc. You may not be cracking open the system, but if you do, it will make it easier. Try to find the kind that uses the tire valve stem to pressurize the fluid canister. You can make one out of a garden sprayer, but thats another thread.

I like Jasons' method of bleeding mentioned earlier. The only danger is leaving small bubles in the system that you don't see, and recirculating them to into the system. Doesn't mean I havn't done it his way a million times, just something to be aware of.

You don't need to buy a manual, see my post from a while back.