driving a 45 year old vehicle

[Rosie]

jp, how much are you joking?

[jp-]

jp, how much are you joking?

Well, a little I guess. It's like everything else on a Land Rover. The squeeky wheel gets the grease. No one bothers to check the hub seals until they start leaking, so I guess the answer is that if yours are leaking they need attention.

[scott]

...Can anyone tell me what are acceptable leaks?
From what part of the vehicle and how much drip?
Also, what leaks would suggest major problems?
Much appreciated!

i've flown in a lot of leaky CH46s. Some of the oldest airframes still flying Marines around and the crewmen always tell ya, don't worry about the leaks 'til they stop. but since i don't have the budget they do i check levels a couple of times a month on mine, which leaks very little from the crank case, none from the diffs and the front hubs leak only when ingaged. i have found that my tranny level goes down and the transfer case goes up and the OD leaks a bit.

[Rosie]

Scott are you in Iraq?
If so, be careful!!
Does anyone know this vehicle for sale?
1967 Landrover Series II; 88” wheelbase, Safari top, 54,500 original miles; Landrover Limestone original and restored color.
I have driven the vehicle about 100 miles since rebuild. Engine runs very smooth, 60 psi oil pressure.
Rebuilt Items: (All parts from Rovers North)
Chassis
New Galvanized Chassis
New left front fender
Rebuilt firewall, new footwells (replaced all rusted sheet metal)
New fuel tank
Body completely disassembled, painted, and reassembled
New rubber seals between roof and body
New weather stripping around all doors
New sliding window seals driver, passenger, sliding rear compartment windows
New Safari roof spacers
New galvanized splash guards
New galvanized front bumper
Engine
Rebuilt Rovers North engine (British Military overhaul with dyno test)
New engine mounts
New Clutch
Rebuilt slave cylindermaster cylinder
Electrical converted from generator to alternator, positive ground to negative ground
New voltage regulator
New coil
Radiator boiled and cleaned
New radiator hoses
New fan belt
Exhaust
Complete new exhaust system: pipe, muffler, hangers
Suspension
New leaf spring assemblies (4)
New shocks
New check straps
Brakes
New brake shoes all 4 wheels and emergency brake
New brake cylinders all 4 wheels
New brake lines (complete)
Rebuilt master cylinder
Interior
New upholstery all seats and seat backs
Electrical
New wiring harness
All lights are in working condition except turn signals (needs flasher or work on turn signal itsel)
Drive Train
New wheel seals (all 4 wheels)
New wheel bearings all 4 wheels
New output shaft seals, both differentials
Rebuilt knuckle joints in both front wheels
All gear oil replaced with AMSOIL synthetic gear oil
Warn hubs
New u-joints
New transmission mounts
New boots on: drive shaft, transmission shifters, clutch shaft
Things To do:
Vehicle is equipped with stock 15 inch wheels and tires (might be original tires). 16 inch wheels and tires would be better.
Need to finish interior upholstery; roof liner and door liners
Need to install heater hoses from engine block to heater
Need to install defroster hoses from heater to windows
Need to work on windshield wiper motors
Need to work on turn signal switch

[Tim Smith]

I'm sorry Rosie but with all those new things listed out like that, I kinda doubt you will find that owner using the truck like (I assume) most of us are.

I could claim and probably show you the receipts for those item but I have more than one truck. So, I really think you need a local to search out the truck for you if you are going by stats.

It sounds great but the reality could be different.

End of line is that you or someone you trust should check the truck for you unless you get very good feedback about the seller.
Otherwise buyer beware.

Good luck!

[Rosie]

The 73 series from Ill. on ebay looks alright. I spoke with the owner. Treated gently for it's whole life according to him.
Has anyone looked at it?
Since I am going to use this as an on road vehicle, this might work.
Thanks for comments from everyone!! I really appreciate the advice!

[Eric W S]

The 73 series from Ill. on ebay looks alright. I spoke with the owner. Treated gently for it's whole life according to him.
Has anyone looked at it?
Since I am going to use this as an on road vehicle, this might work.
Thanks for comments from everyone!! I really appreciate the advice!

I have yet to see a nice series from Illinois on ebay. Have you looked at the undercarriage pics? The shocks looked shot, as do the springs, and bushings. Something's amiss as he doesn't show the any shot's of the full undercarriage. What does the oil pan and engine look like from underneath? Same for the transmission? Same for swivel balls. No frame protection like waxoyl? Where they use salt? There is rust and leaks that he is not showing, IMO. What does the engine look like?

Original drive train, brakes, wiring, hydraulics, and steering components? No way to even tell how horrid it may drive.

It looks repainted as well. Tub floor looks like the original shade of limestone.

Never seen that truck at any club event or show.

[Rosie]

Eric,
You have the right questions! I am so thankful you guys are here!
I am going to ask him for pics of this stuff.
And the 1960 that I was waiting for pics on...well, looks pretty rough! All his talk about everything new...well, why does it all look so rusty?
And the interior looks like a granade hit it!!
Can anyone tell me how much a paint job could cost when the entire interior needs to be done as well as the exterior?
Thanks so much for all your help! You are forewarning me about the pit of snakes up ahead!!!
I hate buying used vehicles!
But I am determined to find a good one!

[EASTTNROVER]

Rosie,

Dont know what all websites you check out but take a look at land rover exchange, you should find something good eventually...

[adkrover]

I found my truck on Land Rover Exchange but you may need to reconsider your budget if you want a sweet truck with no issues.

[Eric W S]

Eric,
You have the right questions! I am so thankful you guys are here!
I am going to ask him for pics of this stuff.
And the 1960 that I was waiting for pics on...well, looks pretty rough! All his talk about everything new...well, why does it all look so rusty?
And the interior looks like a granade hit it!!
Can anyone tell me how much a paint job could cost when the entire interior needs to be done as well as the exterior?
Thanks so much for all your help! You are forewarning me about the pit of snakes up ahead!!!
I hate buying used vehicles!
But I am determined to find a good one!

I have met very few people that have spent 30k on any vehicle.

To properly paint a rover requires removal of each part. Wings, bulkhead, seatbox, tub. Might as well galvanize while your there. I have priced the aforementioned from 3 to 7k for a good paint job. It isn't cheap at all. Finding straight panels like inner wings is a pain.

Back to square one. Passed on the truck. Bulkhead was toast. And it wasn't leak free as described. I wasn't expecting a museum piece, but the transmission had 1/2" of oil on it.

Heading over to Cooper Technica to talk to Dave. Guess I'll have to pony up for one of his clients trucks.

For what your looking for, Lanny Clark, Land Rover Ranch, or Ike are most likely the only folks who are going to have a truck that will fit your needs.

[Rosie]

I just drove a series truck today for the first time! Yea, I had never even seen one in person before! Went to look at one that was for sale. Under 4k. It was pretty scruffed up. Lots of farmer style repairs. But it was SO fun!!!
Before today I was not 100% sure I would like one of these in the actual...everything has been in the virtual....
and I am now totally totally excited!!!!
This is the coolest little vehicle!!!
Much better in the real than in the pics!! I thought they were bigger!! They are so small!! Perfect size!!!
....You guys must think I am crazy...

[Moose]

....You guys must think I am crazy...

Sure you're crazy... just like the rest of us. But it's a good crazy.

Glad to hear you enjoyed your first drive in a Series.

Brett

[thixon]

Congrats Rosie,

You've been infected. Now there's no going back. Keep up the wait for the right truck.

I've had a bunch of collector cars over the years, and I mean the following: There's one thing that can get you into trouble fast, and that's letting you're want for a rover (or any other car) cloud your sensible side. Keep looking, I promise you you'll find a decent one sooner or later.

Keep asking questions, posting picks of what you look at, or even asking one of us to go look at a prospective purchase with you or for you. I travel alot for work. If I'm ever close to one you're interested in, I'd be glad to take a look for you.

Good Luck!

[ShootingCar]

Copley Motor Cars?

Here's one from Copley in Mass. I looked at their vehicles and talked with them last year prior to buying mine from ECR. They seemed to be pretty straight shooters but I don't have any direct experience with them.

Jeff

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Land-Rover-Series-II-88-1960-Land-Rover-Series-II-88-Lucy_W0QQitemZ160264672505QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item160264672505&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318