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  • superstator
    2nd Gear
    • Aug 2008
    • 298

    Fairey

    My OD seems to work just fine, but it is fantastically loud when engaged at speed. I checked the little dipstick-on-a-bolt, and there seems to be oil well past the notch, but I pulled the inspection plate off and took a peek anyway:





    Keeping in mind I know next to nothing about transmissions, let alone these overdrives, the first thing I noticed was that it smelled foul - very burnt. The gears themselves look OK to me, though you can see the faces have some pits and flakes out of them.

    At the least I'll drain and refill it, but how much oil can I safely add back in? If it weren't for the dipstick I'd assume I could just top it right up to the fill hole, but is there some possibility of damage from overfilling? And what weight should I use - I know 90 would be the standard, could I put something like 75w140 in in hopes of quieting it down a little, or is that asking for trouble?
    '67 109 NADA #413 - rebuilding w/ TDI & galvy chassis.
  • KevinNY
    4th Gear
    • Oct 2006
    • 484

    #2
    I ran Red Line Heavy Shock in my Fairey and it quieted it nicely as well as being synthetic to resist the heat. Fill to the notch, check it often and change it regularly.
    The Goat, 2.8 Daihatsu Td, '73 coil conversion

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    • adkrover
      2nd Gear
      • Jan 2008
      • 206

      #3
      My understanding is that they are always noisy. The older they are the louder they get. I purchased a truck with a supposed rebuilt OD and it was too loud to use. I tried to get a Roverdrive but they were out of production so I sent mine back to Rovers Down South to have it rebuilt for sure. George went through it and said it had been poorly rebuilt and the case was bad. He found a new case for it and rebuilt the rest. Now I have a guaranteed rebuild that is still too loud to use. It's not as bas as before but it is still pretty loud. Maybe I should try some different lube before I give up on it also?

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      • KevinNY
        4th Gear
        • Oct 2006
        • 484

        #4
        Try a seat box mat too.
        The Goat, 2.8 Daihatsu Td, '73 coil conversion

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        • ybt502r
          Low Range
          • Oct 2007
          • 81

          #5
          Try some of our host's synthetic 90w - I've put it in all the usual places, and it makes cold weather driving much better. The OD is still loud but one does get used to it - the mat suggestion (I've got the heavy weight rubber mat across all the front floor and bulkhead) is a solid idea.

          My son and I drove the SIII from Colorado to Canada. We had a CD player to listen to books-on-CD while making the s-l-o-w drive across the plains. Made the mistake of turning it on once (at the highway sound level) when in town before we were up to highway speeds with the OD engaged - the CD darn near blew the windows off. Only made that mistake once. I can still hear mostly well too, save for some ringing now and then. Having the OD is worth it for when you need it.
          77 88" SIII County SW
          82 Jp CJ8

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          • I Leak Oil
            Overdrive
            • Nov 2006
            • 1796

            #6
            Bought mine brand new in 1994 and was noisy right out of the box. I've had good luck with keeping extra oil in it by making a new inspection plate with a breather pipe instead of the thin cover with the hole that they come with. This is where most of the oil leaks from on the Fairey. I hardly notice the noise anymore as I've become numb to it...
            Jason T.
            Jason
            "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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            • greenmeanie
              Overdrive
              • Oct 2006
              • 1358

              #7
              That's fatigue in the face of the gear teeth and that will be making her pretty loud. It suggests to me that either the unit is old with a lot of miles on it or someone has been using it poorly in lower gears instead of cruising and spliting 3/4.

              Unfortunately the only real fix is to replace both gears. Replacing only one results in accelerated wear of both gears. Time to call George.

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              • superstator
                2nd Gear
                • Aug 2008
                • 298

                #8
                Originally posted by greenmeanie
                That's fatigue in the face of the gear teeth and that will be making her pretty loud. It suggests to me that either the unit is old with a lot of miles on it or someone has been using it poorly in lower gears instead of cruising and spliting 3/4.

                Unfortunately the only real fix is to replace both gears. Replacing only one results in accelerated wear of both gears. Time to call George.
                Probably both. Who's George? Is replacing those gears something a mere mortal could contemplate doing themselves, or would that be stepping off the deep end?
                '67 109 NADA #413 - rebuilding w/ TDI & galvy chassis.

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                • jp-
                  5th Gear
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 981

                  #9
                  Funny, my Fairey in the 109" has always been relatively quiet. Must not have been built on a Monday or Friday...

                  George is George Laird, of RDS (Rovers Down South). He bought all the Fairey tooling.
                  61 II 109" Pickup (Restomod, 350 small block, TR4050)
                  66 IIA 88" Station Wagon (sold)
                  66 IIA 109" Pickup (Restomod, 5MGE, R380)
                  67 IIA 109" NADA Wagon (sold)
                  88, 2.5TD 110 RHD non-hicap pickup

                  -I used to know everything there was to know about Land Rovers; then I joined the RN Bulletin Board.

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                  • adkrover
                    2nd Gear
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 206

                    #10
                    No dissrespect to George but I sent mine to him because of the noise and he rebuilt it, guaranteed it wouldn't be noisy, bench tested it, said it was all set, as quiet as a new unit and it is still noisy. Not as bad as before but much louder than anything else on the truck. If you want it to be quiet, leave it laying on the garage floor.

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                    • superstator
                      2nd Gear
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 298

                      #11
                      If it doesn't physically hurt anymore to have it engaged past 50mph, it'll be money well spent. Now I just have to figure out how to keep the truck running for a while without it... Am I right thinking it's just an intermediate gear & a backing plate that needs to be swapped in when it's removed? Anybody got some lying around?
                      '67 109 NADA #413 - rebuilding w/ TDI & galvy chassis.

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                      • superstator
                        2nd Gear
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 298

                        #12
                        Nevermind, found it in my box o' mystery parts. Now, any sneaky ways to deal with the mainshaft nut, or do I have to suck it up and buy the tool?
                        '67 109 NADA #413 - rebuilding w/ TDI & galvy chassis.

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                        • mcb
                          Low Range
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 11

                          #13
                          The blunt chisel and hammer method has worked a couple times for me over the years in removing the main shaft nut but it results in a chewed up nut.

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