Looking into 2.5d or 200tdi in my series

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  • superstator
    2nd Gear
    • Aug 2008
    • 298

    #16
    Originally posted by Eric W S
    I'd research whether the 2.5 is a good bio candidate. The UK forums should have info on this. Finding and building one is another issue. Not that many stateside. I'd talk to Turner and get a rebuilt long block that has been gas flowed. A turbo version would be cool if you could locate one...
    The 2.5 uses the same injectors as the 2.25, so I would expect it to do just fine with Bio-d or SVO.

    Jim-ME - if you're buying a new stripped engine from Turner, why wouldn't you just get the 2.5 for the same price? Are the mounts different?
    '67 109 NADA #413 - rebuilding w/ TDI & galvy chassis.

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    • Clembs
      Low Range
      • Mar 2009
      • 45

      #17
      Ha i do live at wrightsville beach but due to the salt air i moved my sII a up to Roanoke va. i have heard all about not trusting tidewater.
      Brent
      Wrightsville Beach, NC/ Roanoke, Va
      '67 Series IIa (former Bugeye)
      '86 911 Carerra 3.2
      '88 BMW M5

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      • Eric W S
        5th Gear
        • Dec 2006
        • 609

        #18
        Originally posted by superstator
        The 2.5 uses the same injectors as the 2.25, so I would expect it to do just fine with Bio-d or SVO.

        Jim-ME - if you're buying a new stripped engine from Turner, why wouldn't you just get the 2.5 for the same price? Are the mounts different?
        "Although they are not inexpensive I personally would go this route if I was willing to cut and weld my galvanized frame." per Jim-ME a few post ago...

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        • yorker
          Overdrive
          • Nov 2006
          • 1635

          #19
          Originally posted by superstator
          The 2.5 uses the same injectors as the 2.25, so I would expect it to do just fine with Bio-d or SVO.

          Jim-ME - if you're buying a new stripped engine from Turner, why wouldn't you just get the 2.5 for the same price? Are the mounts different?
          The problem with the 2.25 and SVO is the injection pump. 2.5 might be ok though.
          1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

          Land Rover UK Forums

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          • superstator
            2nd Gear
            • Aug 2008
            • 298

            #20
            Originally posted by Eric W S
            "Although they are not inexpensive I personally would go this route if I was willing to cut and weld my galvanized frame." per Jim-ME a few post ago...
            Yes. And I thought the 2.5 and 2.25 were practically identical and the 2.5 would be a drop in replacement without any cutting or welding. Which is apparently not the case, which is why I asked the question in hopes of maybe learning something useful.
            '67 109 NADA #413 - rebuilding w/ TDI & galvy chassis.

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            • LaneRover
              Overdrive
              • Oct 2006
              • 1743

              #21
              Originally posted by superstator
              Yes. And I thought the 2.5 and 2.25 were practically identical and the 2.5 would be a drop in replacement without any cutting or welding. Which is apparently not the case, which is why I asked the question in hopes of maybe learning something useful.
              I always thought that the 2.5 was just a 2.25 with a different crank and a few other differences - but not motor mount differences. How different are they?
              1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
              1965 109 SW - nearly running well
              1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
              1969 109 P-UP

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              • Eric W S
                5th Gear
                • Dec 2006
                • 609

                #22
                Originally posted by LaneRover
                I always thought that the 2.5 was just a 2.25 with a different crank and a few other differences - but not motor mount differences. How different are they?
                Motor mounts differently. You need to loose the battery from under the bonnet to in the cab.

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                • SafeAirOne
                  Overdrive
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 3435

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Eric W S
                  Motor mounts differently. You need to loose the battery from under the bonnet to in the cab.
                  Not necessarily. I raised my battery tray and kept it under the bonnet.
                  --Mark

                  1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                  0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                  (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                  • I Leak Oil
                    Overdrive
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 1796

                    #24
                    Isn't the motor mount different because of the injection pump? Not necessarily the block right?
                    Jason T.
                    Jason
                    "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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                    • yorker
                      Overdrive
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 1635

                      #25
                      1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

                      Land Rover UK Forums

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                      • Eric W S
                        5th Gear
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 609

                        #26
                        Originally posted by SafeAirOne
                        Not necessarily. I raised my battery tray and kept it under the bonnet.
                        Interesting. Most people get the sawzall out.

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                        • Eric W S
                          5th Gear
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 609

                          #27
                          Good link. Sounds like a PITA to me.

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                          • Blueboy
                            1st Gear
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 153

                            #28
                            Sounds like a PITA to me
                            no kidding!!!

                            on my recent trip from outside NYC to Rockville, MD an older VW Jetta TDI went by me.

                            next to the TDI logo there was a "runs on bio-diesel" sticker.

                            after reading that link it seems more trouble than its worth.

                            for LR content, my friend in Brasil had a '93 110 with a 200Tdi in it.

                            on our trip to Chile, his fuel pump died and he had to replace it at our camp site.

                            his reasoning for the failure was the diesel fuel was containing less and less sulpher for lubrication due to the addition of bio-diesel mixed with the regular diesel available at many stations.

                            Even International had in their manual for my 110 not to use bio-diesel in the 300Tdi which was too bad as the bio had a higher C value.


                            Jaime
                            One Life Live It

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                            • SafeAirOne
                              Overdrive
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 3435

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Blueboy
                              ...his reasoning for the failure was the diesel fuel was containing less and less sulpher for lubrication due to the addition of bio-diesel mixed with the regular diesel available at many stations.
                              There was an extensive test of diesel fuel additives and their ability to counteract the damaging effects of the low-sulphur diesel fuel being sold today.

                              This test seems to go against your friend's belief about biodiesel. The biodiesel was blended with low-sulphur diesel and outperformed ALL of the other 18 diesel fuel additives. Read all about it at:

                              --Mark

                              1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                              0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                              (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                              • Blueboy
                                1st Gear
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 153

                                #30
                                good read - thx.

                                keep in mind this was in Brasil and he was not putting any additives into the fuel.

                                must be something to it though as International Motors made sure they placed a "warning" in the Defender manual not to use bio.


                                Jaime
                                One Life Live It

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