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  • SafeAirOne
    Overdrive
    • Apr 2008
    • 3435

    #16
    Originally posted by kevkon
    I think that's why they changed the design on the SIII. It needs dampening.

    Not sure what is being suggested here, but my SIII shift lever snapped about 3/4" above the shifter ball IIRC.

    To add insult to injury, it snapped off just as I was decelerating into the security checkpoint at a military base during the morning rush. The guards had to unceremonially push my rover off to the side to let several dozen other cars behind me into the base.

    I showed up to work with black hands that morning...
    --Mark

    1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

    0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
    (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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    • JimCT
      5th Gear
      • Nov 2006
      • 518

      #17
      heat treating

      You can weld it if you want, but unless you properly heat treat it, it will break again in the area of the weld.
      1968 battlefield ambulance/camper
      1963 Unimog Radio box
      1995 LWB RR

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      • kevkon
        3rd Gear
        • Aug 2009
        • 364

        #18
        Originally posted by SafeAirOne
        Not sure what is being suggested here, but my SIII shift lever snapped about 3/4" above the shifter ball IIRC.

        To add insult to injury, it snapped off just as I was decelerating into the security checkpoint at a military base during the morning rush. The guards had to unceremonially push my rover off to the side to let several dozen other cars behind me into the base.

        I showed up to work with black hands that morning...
        Yeah, mine broke as well. I was suggesting that LR was aware of a problem and made an attempt to mitigate it, attempt being the key word.
        94 D-90 tdi
        72 Series III

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        • SafeAirOne
          Overdrive
          • Apr 2008
          • 3435

          #19
          Originally posted by JimCT
          You can weld it if you want, but unless you properly heat treat it, it will break again in the area of the weld.
          I've proven that, though I did get almost another year out of the old one before it re-broke.
          --Mark

          1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

          0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
          (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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          • SafeAirOne
            Overdrive
            • Apr 2008
            • 3435

            #20
            Originally posted by kevkon
            Yeah, mine broke as well. I was suggesting that LR was aware of a problem and made an attempt to mitigate it, attempt being the key word.

            How? By the use of the plastic buffer instead of the o-ring on the bit that engages the transmission shift forks?

            Incidentally, the lever that snapped on me was the o-ring type. My replacement plastic-buffer type has lasted 3 or 4 years so far...
            --Mark

            1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

            0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
            (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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            • yorker
              Overdrive
              • Nov 2006
              • 1635

              #21
              Originally posted by kevkon
              I think that's why they changed the design on the SIII. It needs dampening.

              Series IIIs break as much if not more than SIIs IMHO. At least as far as the original trucks exported to NA are concerned.
              1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

              Land Rover UK Forums

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              • kevkon
                3rd Gear
                • Aug 2009
                • 364

                #22
                Ok, I give up,why do you guys think the steel lever is breaking? What is the average Series driver a lot stronger than any other truck driver?
                94 D-90 tdi
                72 Series III

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                • SafeAirOne
                  Overdrive
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 3435

                  #23
                  Originally posted by kevkon
                  Ok, I give up,why do you guys think the steel lever is breaking? What is the average Series driver a lot stronger than any other truck driver?
                  Stress cracking from vibration at certain frequencies would be my guess...
                  --Mark

                  1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                  0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                  (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                  • CMorris
                    Low Range
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66

                    #24
                    After my third broken lever (right at the top of the ball), I brought the broken lever and ball to a fab shop that has made all kinds of parts for me. They drilled out and tapped the ball, then welded rod to the end of the lever and threaded it, added a locking nut.....all set. So, in a pinch if and when this one breaks again, I have a long grade 8 bolt I can thread into the ball (hopefully it breaks high enough for vise grips to get a bite), and shift the truck so it can at least be moved. The fab shop is going to make a lever for me out of something exotic to hopefully end the breaking problem. The shop did send the ball out to a company that heat treats/hardens steel but they need to dissect it to determine what process to use (so not hardened yet), if anyone has a sacrificial-lamb shift ball they want to give up I could use one. So, eventually I hope to end up with some sort of titanium/heat treated/hardened set up............

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                    • TedW
                      5th Gear
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 887

                      #25
                      I have a NOS spare lever kicking around if anyone wants it.

                      It's the kind with one bend in the shaft and no threads at the top - S2, I think. I need the one with two bends in the shaft and threads for the 'shroom top.

                      Send me a PM if interested.

                      Ted

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                      • mrdoiron
                        4th Gear
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 446

                        #26
                        Originally posted by TedW
                        It's the kind with one bend in the shaft and no threads at the top - S2, I think. I need the one with two bends in the shaft and threads for the 'shroom top.

                        Send me a PM if interested.

                        Ted
                        Here is how my shifter is configured / welded (don't be thrown off by the low profile firewall mounted subwoofer - I tried to stealth it up a bit) :
                        Last edited by mrdoiron; 10-05-2010, 04:19 PM.
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                        1961 Ser IIa Hybrid Defender
                        1969 Ser IIa Bugeye
                        1980 Ser III Lightweight 24V RHD- sold
                        1988 LR90 turbo diesel RHD - currently frame off rebuild in progress
                        1998 Disco - ex wife :-(
                        2000 Disco - RIP , end over end 2.5 times
                        2010 RR Sport Supercharged


                        http://mikerovers.shutterfly.com/

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                        • rbonnett
                          1st Gear
                          • May 2009
                          • 115

                          #27
                          Seeking a replacement

                          The shift lever in my SIII snapped off yesterday - I managed to limp home with the help of my mole grip replacement

                          Our hosts are out of stock with no ETA for more - anyone have one they want to part with? This is for a '72 SIII with the press on knob.

                          Thanks
                          '72 88" - daily driver
                          '64 109 SW - project in waiting

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                          • mrdoiron
                            4th Gear
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 446

                            #28
                            shift Lever - shaft angle mod help ?

                            Posting here on this thread as well as another to try an get some feedback/advice/leads...
                            I have a LT77 gearbox on a RHD of a hybrid mod, and the shift lever essentially is straight vertical to the knob. Problem is the Reverse on this is up and the left (by 1st), and I almost need to lean to get it into R, and there is not a natural / easy feel even to slide to 1st due to the reach required.

                            I am searching for any experience / advice on how to resolve buy either :
                            1. Ideally a custom offering of a shaft angled toward the driver somewhere to resolve ? (again would need to angle toward driver on right in my case) , or
                            2. Tips on how to heat up/bend the existing shaft without causing another problem, weakening the shaft and creating a potential 'snap point' etc...

                            Any leads/tips greatly appreciated, mike
                            ---------------------------
                            1961 Ser IIa Hybrid Defender
                            1969 Ser IIa Bugeye
                            1980 Ser III Lightweight 24V RHD- sold
                            1988 LR90 turbo diesel RHD - currently frame off rebuild in progress
                            1998 Disco - ex wife :-(
                            2000 Disco - RIP , end over end 2.5 times
                            2010 RR Sport Supercharged


                            http://mikerovers.shutterfly.com/

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                            • kwd509
                              1st Gear
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 180

                              #29
                              Originally posted by rbonnett
                              The shift lever in my SIII snapped off yesterday - I managed to limp home with the help of my mole grip replacement
                              Better late than never. Pleased to see this thread.....in 1972 I was 15... almost had my license and was learning on the rover when the gearshift snapped off in my hand.....boy was my dad pissed.

                              A new part was ordered but was so slow to come that the repair was made via a weld...... and it lasted till this day, though the truck was dormant from 79 on. I guess when it is running again a spare ought to be ordered....

                              Years later I am gratified to learn that it was not just me......

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                              • HybridIIA
                                1st Gear
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 100

                                #30
                                Originally posted by mrdoiron
                                Posting here on this thread as well as another to try an get some feedback/advice/leads...
                                I have a LT77 gearbox on a RHD of a hybrid mod, and the shift lever essentially is straight vertical to the knob. Problem is the Reverse on this is up and the left (by 1st), and I almost need to lean to get it into R, and there is not a natural / easy feel even to slide to 1st due to the reach required.

                                I am searching for any experience / advice on how to resolve buy either :
                                1. Ideally a custom offering of a shaft angled toward the driver somewhere to resolve ? (again would need to angle toward driver on right in my case) , or
                                2. Tips on how to heat up/bend the existing shaft without causing another problem, weakening the shaft and creating a potential 'snap point' etc...

                                Any leads/tips greatly appreciated, mike
                                When I installed a LT77 in my truck, I just cut off the bottom of the original LT77 shift lever and welded the IIA lever to it. That way I didn't have to deal with bending anything and could pretty much position the lever any way I wanted.
                                '62 109 - coil sprung
                                '64 88 - coil sprung

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