Broken studs on exhaust manifold..

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  • Jeff Aronson
    Moderator
    • Oct 2006
    • 569

    #16
    Rick,

    I used a lot of anti-seize upon installation of new studs and brass nuts to help minimize corrosion. I also found that loosening and tightening the nuts a few times between oil changes helped reduce the chance of seizing up.

    That said, I've noticed recently that a one nut simple won't tighten up even though there's a wobble in the header pipe. I'm probably headed towards new studs soon, too.

    Jeff
    Jeff Aronson
    Vinalhaven, ME 04863
    '66 Series II-A SW 88"
    '66 Series II-A HT 88"
    '80 Triumph TR-7 Spider
    '80 Triumph Spitfire
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    • daveb
      5th Gear
      • Nov 2006
      • 513

      #17
      drill and tap the manifold for 3/8 or M10 studs. The 5/16" studs are just too wimpy for the job.
      A Land Rover would never turn up to collect an Oscar. It'd be far too busy doing something important, somewhere, for someone."


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      • SafeAirOne
        Overdrive
        • Apr 2008
        • 3435

        #18
        Originally posted by daveb
        drill and tap the manifold for 3/8 or M10 studs. The 5/16" studs are just too wimpy for the job.
        Or, to keep it more consistent with Rover engineering, you may want to drill and tap one for 3/8, the other for M10 and probably want to throw in a BSF thread on the other one.
        --Mark

        1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

        0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
        (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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        • yorker
          Overdrive
          • Nov 2006
          • 1635

          #19
          The genuine exhaust nuts are brass- or they were when I last bought them. That does help. If you buy others you never know what you might get.
          1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

          Land Rover UK Forums

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          • LaneRover
            Overdrive
            • Oct 2006
            • 1743

            #20
            Originally posted by SafeAirOne
            Or, to keep it more consistent with Rover engineering, you may want to drill and tap one for 3/8, the other for M10 and probably want to throw in a BSF thread on the other one.
            Don't forget the SPOT fixes with c-clamps and old hangars.
            1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
            1965 109 SW - nearly running well
            1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
            1969 109 P-UP

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            • TriedStone
              Low Range
              • Apr 2007
              • 81

              #21
              If you do end up having to use a treaded insert, http://www.timesert.com/ are much better than helicoils. A bit pricier but well worth it.

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              • NickDawson
                5th Gear
                • Apr 2009
                • 707

                #22
                watching this thread with interest... exhaust manifold is the only thing keeping me from passing Va inspection ... going to try and put it off until fall, but glad to know what I may be up against.

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                • Donnie
                  2nd Gear
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 287

                  #23
                  Originally posted by masonater
                  Today i was going to remove the rusted front exhaust pipe from my IIA and after days of soaking the nuts with PB blaster i still managed to break 2 of the 3 bolts off. I guess the good news is there are about an inch of the studs still sticking out of the manifold. Am I in big trouble? are the studs reverse threaded in? any help would be great! thanks
                  Everyone has pretty much covered your query, I'll suggest getting a blue tip "torch" set up for the future, a can of never sieze, I like the copper color better than the grey, brass nuts for your studs & a little luck........
                  I spent most of my money on women & cars, the rest of it I just wasted.......

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                  • Cutter
                    4th Gear
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 455

                    #24
                    Another aspect of using brass nuts apart from less seizing worries was the softness vs/stud as to preserve the integrity of the studs threads and if you mangle something if it does somehow get stuck, its more likely going to be the nut. My rover's manifold (6cyl) some previous owner just drilled out and put carriage bolts. Not pretty but it works.
                    _________________________________________
                    1986 3.5l 110 SW Austrian Feurwehr

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                    • rbonnett
                      1st Gear
                      • May 2009
                      • 115

                      #25
                      Thanks all for the great info. Since I have a couple other reasons to pull the head at some point, my plan is:

                      - Pull the head; take it and the exh manifold to the machine shop
                      - Have inserts put in for the manifold studs in the head as well as for the down pipe in the manifold itself
                      - Use lots of anti sieze when I reassemble

                      The fixings for the down pipe did come with brass nuts. Hopefully with the inserts and anti sieze things will be easier next time.

                      Jeff A. - the instructions that came with the exhaust did mention using washers when fastening the down pipe in case the nuts bottomed out before everything was tight. Have you tried that to correct your wobble?
                      '72 88" - daily driver
                      '64 109 SW - project in waiting

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