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  • NickDawson
    5th Gear
    • Apr 2009
    • 707

    #31
    One more - just a though, how long did rover use the same design? Anyone think this part from Napa might work? Its for a 90-95 defender, which is what I often search on since they typically dont have series stuff in their DB.... when was the 2.5L petrol engine sold through? Clearly that says its for the V8 engine - just not sure how universal these things are?

    Starter - Remfd - Standard
    Product Line: NAPA Power Premium Plus
    Part Number: RAY 2446861

    Application Information: 1995 Land Rover Defender
    Engines : 3.9 L 3947 CC V8
    Engines : 3.9 L 3947 CC V8
    Comments: Bosch Type;w/ 1.7 Kilowatt Starter;Optional
    Per Car Qty: 1

    Engines : 4.0 L 3950 CC V8
    Comments: Bosch Type;w/ 1.7 Kilowatt Starter;Optional
    Per Car Qty: 1

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    • kevkon
      3rd Gear
      • Aug 2009
      • 364

      #32
      Why don't you just ask our hosts and save yourself a headache?
      94 D-90 tdi
      72 Series III

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      • SafeAirOne
        Overdrive
        • Apr 2008
        • 3435

        #33
        Originally posted by NickDawson
        So...I could be wrong...but think I found the problem
        :/
        How ugly is that?!?!
        Very.


        Originally posted by NickDawson
        I'm willing to go for a new one at this point
        You haven't preiced one yet, have you?

        Originally posted by NickDawson
        I guess one question is whether or not those reduction gears were the primary problem or the result of me tinkering a few weeks ago?
        I'm sure your earlier tinkering had nothing to do with it. You just need a couple of gears--I'd check around to different places on the cost of a replacement starter, then bring it to your local auto electric place and see what they say. I can't remember if there's a starter dog on the crank of the 2.5P (my diesel doesn't have one), but if you do have one, I'd get a hand crank too.
        --Mark

        1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

        0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
        (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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        • NickDawson
          5th Gear
          • Apr 2009
          • 707

          #34
          Originally posted by kevkon
          Why don't you just ask our hosts and save yourself a headache?
          $700 new / $500 for a rebuild...

          My local shop has a line on a new one for $275 and thinks they might be able to rebuild mine...the only problem is time...going to be weeks. Although this truck has only really run about 20% of the time I've had it, so whats another few weeks :/ Might decide their price for a new one is worth the cost.

          Sorry, needed to vent some frustrations...

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          • bmohan55
            4th Gear
            • Sep 2008
            • 435

            #35
            [QUOTE=NickDawson;50179]$700 new / $500 for a rebuild...

            ...Although this truck has only really run about 20% of the time I've had it.....

            Thats about right for us newbies. From what I have observed, it takes a few years for driving time to at least equal wrenching time. You don't become a Series owner by writing a check.

            ...so whats another few weeks...
            It will give you time to plan your "frame-off"!

            Keep the faith!
            04 Disco, Gone-Disco died & so did mine
            '72 S3 88 - Leakey & Squeaky

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            • daveb
              5th Gear
              • Nov 2006
              • 513

              #36
              Dude, pick up the phone and order one from england. it is really that simple.



              Originally posted by NickDawson
              $700 new / $500 for a rebuild...

              My local shop has a line on a new one for $275 and thinks they might be able to rebuild mine...the only problem is time...going to be weeks. Although this truck has only really run about 20% of the time I've had it, so whats another few weeks :/ Might decide their price for a new one is worth the cost.

              Sorry, needed to vent some frustrations...
              A Land Rover would never turn up to collect an Oscar. It'd be far too busy doing something important, somewhere, for someone."


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              • stomper
                5th Gear
                • Apr 2007
                • 889

                #37
                Originally posted by daveb
                Dude, pick up the phone and order one from england. it is really that simple.
                and while you are at it, you could also order up some other cool bits that you have been looking at, to justify the shipping.
                Bad gas mileage gets you to some of the greatest places on earth.

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                • NickDawson
                  5th Gear
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 707

                  #38
                  Originally posted by daveb
                  Dude, pick up the phone and order one from england. it is really that simple.
                  No opposed to this idea at all - anyone have tips on suppliers in the UK?
                  I'll start googling today....

                  In the mean time, do I lose man points if I just sit in the truck and wheep softly as I nurse a beer?

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                  • SafeAirOne
                    Overdrive
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 3435

                    #39
                    Originally posted by NickDawson
                    No opposed to this idea at all - anyone have tips on suppliers in the UK?
                    I'll start googling today....

                    In the mean time, do I lose man points if I just sit in the truck and wheep softly as I nurse a beer?
                    Well...I'd stay away from any supplier of BritPart stuff. And no, no man points are lost--I've been doing it for the last 4 months! The weeping turns to wailing when I get my rover-related credit card bill every month.
                    --Mark

                    1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                    0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                    (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                    • scott
                      Overdrive
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 1226

                      #40
                      Originally posted by NickDawson
                      No opposed to this idea at all - anyone have tips on suppliers in the UK?
                      I'll start googling today....

                      In the mean time, do I lose man points if I just sit in the truck and wheep softly as I nurse a beer?
                      yes you will. you need to man up and get in there, switch on the ign, engage the clutch and have the wife and kids push
                      '64 Series IIA 88 Canvas Tilt
                      '68 Series IIA RHD Ambulance
                      '76 Spitfire 1500
                      '07 LR3 (Series Recovery Vehicle)

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                      • daveb
                        5th Gear
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 513

                        #41
                        [QUOTE=NickDawson;50326]No opposed to this idea at all - anyone have tips on suppliers in the UK?


                        I've used dingocroft with great success, others have done paddocks and the like. Put down the computer and phone them up. you will get better happier results that way. and for once just try doing something without asking the forum first. next we know you are going to want us to dial for you.
                        A Land Rover would never turn up to collect an Oscar. It'd be far too busy doing something important, somewhere, for someone."


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                        • SafeAirOne
                          Overdrive
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 3435

                          #42
                          Ask as many questions as you want...NOT profiting from other Rover owner's mistakes/knowledge gets very expensive very quickly and really doesn't have an impact on your Rover maintenance "learning curve" one way or the other. I'm certain that there hasn't been a new, unheard-of-by-anyone maintenance issue on a series Rover in the last 40 years!
                          --Mark

                          1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                          0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                          (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                          • LaneRover
                            Overdrive
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 1743

                            #43
                            Originally posted by SafeAirOne
                            Ask as many questions as you want...NOT profiting from other Rover owner's mistakes/knowledge gets very expensive very quickly and really doesn't have an impact on your Rover maintenance "learning curve" one way or the other. I'm certain that there hasn't been a new, unheard-of-by-anyone maintenance issue on a series Rover in the last 40 years!
                            I agree with the ask questions and learn from others!
                            1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
                            1965 109 SW - nearly running well
                            1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
                            1969 109 P-UP

                            http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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                            • NickDawson
                              5th Gear
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 707

                              #44
                              Originally posted by LaneRover
                              I agree with the ask questions and learn from others!
                              Thanks gang - I know I post a lot, some of it is just to share the journey. I cannot say enough about how much I appreciate this group!

                              I've found a lot of UK suppliers - curiously none list the 2.5L Petrol engine - looking forward to calling tomorrow and seeing what I can learn.... now its just a mystery I have to solve.

                              Makes me wonder...is the stater really different b/t the two engines? I'll report what I learn tomorrow when I call around.

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                              • daveb
                                5th Gear
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 513

                                #45
                                are you sure its a 2.5? What is your engine number?

                                Lots of people mistake the 2.25 5 bearing for a 2.5.



                                Originally posted by NickDawson
                                Thanks gang - I know I post a lot, some of it is just to share the journey. I cannot say enough about how much I appreciate this group!

                                I've found a lot of UK suppliers - curiously none list the 2.5L Petrol engine - looking forward to calling tomorrow and seeing what I can learn.... now its just a mystery I have to solve.
                                A Land Rover would never turn up to collect an Oscar. It'd be far too busy doing something important, somewhere, for someone."


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