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  • LR Max
    3rd Gear
    • Feb 2010
    • 315

    #16
    Good price on axles, but not for installation into your rover.

    While I'm sure you are oogling over a Dana 60, the fact of the matter is that stock Dana 60s aren't that much stronger than a Dana 44. The 44 and the 60 both have the same axle shaft size. Also there is a possibility that the Dana 60 you are looking at is semi-float, making it less desirable.

    However the front Dana 44 is desirable for jeepers. You could probably pick it up for $100 and then sell it for ~$300. Maybe more if you painted it and cleaned it up. Also assuming said axle isn't all shot to crap (I.E. good gears, good carrier, good shafts, etc).

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    • SGS714
      Low Range
      • Jan 2007
      • 83

      #17
      Originally posted by thixon
      SGS 714,

      Most of us don't know much about you, so we don't know what you're capable of. You could make those axles work, but there are some easier options out there. There was an intersting post just recently on this board concerning Toyota FJ40 axles. Do a search for it. Alternatively, there are shaft upgrades to the rover axle that seem to work well for people (see www.seriestrek.com or www.greatbasinrovers.com). The Salisbury option is a good one. It will cost you more for the axle than the deal you have going for the dana's, but will be a faster swap (probably).

      Good luck, and post up what/how you go about your fix!
      Thixon, Thanks! I am new to wrench turning with no background other than a desire to be more self reliant and have a deeper understanding of how these outstanding pieces of engineering work. I enjoy the process of creating equipment ideal for my needs. The RRC I drive has been a very long 3 year project that I was the assistant for my mechanic on, but learned a great deal along the way. Owned an 89 RRC since new and upgraded to the present 95 3 years ago. Back to the Series....Have always admired them for the obvious reasons and sold a MGB I had driven in the summers for 13 years and bought my present project. Your post was very helpful and will pass on these axles and probably make the investment in the Seriestrek, or Great Plains solution to knock this off my (I want to do someday list).

      Below is a list of things we have done to this truck in the last 60 days and now have a fairly reliable driver. Servo, clutch master, 16" rims and BF Goodyear MT's, Roverdrive, brake lines, wheel cylinders, seals, carb overhaul, complete steam cleaning and then Waxoled, and new seats and suspension. And have no regretts so far....all monies well spent.
      ________________________
      67 Series II
      71 Series IIa 88" ACR 2.8 Power Plus
      89 RRC SWB 2-Door 2.4L tdi Spanish
      93 D110 NAS 327
      94 2x D90 NAS #'s 1076, 1181
      95 3x RRC 2-SWB, 1-LWB

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      • yorker
        Overdrive
        • Nov 2006
        • 1635

        #18
        The easiest upgrade would be Series Trek's 24 spline conversion. You don't mention if your IIa is an 88 or a 109? For total axle swaps:If you are looking at Jeep axles then the narrowtrack Dana 44s would be a source. the narrow Land Cruiser 40/45/55 axles are another option.

        In reality if it is an 88" you are probably fine with the 10 spline axles, just check them once in a while to make sure the splines are not twisted, if they are then replace both sides. These trucks went all over the world with 10 spline axles and got by just fine. It isn't the best design, it isn't bulletproof, but it does work and is your cheapest and likely most sensible option.
        1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

        Land Rover UK Forums

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        • amcordo
          5th Gear
          • Jun 2009
          • 740

          #19
          Yo!

          The PO of my POS (but I love it) swapped out all the original SIII axles with new ones. I've got to admit that I haven't even touched those yet (beyond routine oil changing) so I'm in over my head here. All I remember is that he said he swapped them out to make sure they were Salisbury from a Stage 1. Haven't had a problem with them yet while driving it on highways all the time.

          Anyway, moral of the story is that I think he got them from the website below. If I remember looking at the old invoice shipping from the UK for the axle wasn't very expensive (though it was probably on a slow boat). Just something to think about if none of the stores this side of the pond are sitting on a new one...

          L. R. Series Ltd - The Land Rover Series parts specialists. In our online store, you'll find thousands of product lines to suit all Land Rover models.

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          • mongoswede
            5th Gear
            • May 2010
            • 757

            #20
            Series III Stage 1 V8 Salisbury rear axle assembly:
            http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product...lisbury&page=1 Shipping will likely be expensive.


            the older units are available too. Do a search on that UK site under Land Rover Series & "Salisbury". If you decide to go that route you might ask around as some one else may be interested in shipping one as well...if it might cut down on shipping.

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            • amcordo
              5th Gear
              • Jun 2009
              • 740

              #21
              Originally posted by mongoswede
              Series III Stage 1 V8 Salisbury rear axle assembly:
              http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product...lisbury&page=1 Shipping will likely be expensive.


              the older units are available too. Do a search on that UK site under Land Rover Series & "Salisbury". If you decide to go that route you might ask around as some one else may be interested in shipping one as well...if it might cut down on shipping.

              $US 571 isn't too bad! I'll try to find that invoice again to give you an idea of what shipping ran back in the day (late 90s). Or you can email them - they're helpful. This is all assuming a) you're interested in getting a nice salisbury, and b) have already asked our hosts if they've got one sitting around.

              and PS I said it "won't be bad" but of course mongoswede is right that it'll be attrocious when compared to a domestic order. Probably quarter to half a grand easy. If you found other people willing to get them the cost would go down signficantly because it isn't the weight you'd be paying for, rather the logistics.

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              • amcordo
                5th Gear
                • Jun 2009
                • 740

                #22
                IF YOU THINK ABOUT GETTING THIS ORDER: I'll add something to the order to cut down on your cost a bit. They have disc brake conversion kits!! See the other thread...

                Originally posted by mongoswede
                Series III Stage 1 V8 Salisbury rear axle assembly:
                http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product...lisbury&page=1 Shipping will likely be expensive.


                the older units are available too. Do a search on that UK site under Land Rover Series & "Salisbury". If you decide to go that route you might ask around as some one else may be interested in shipping one as well...if it might cut down on shipping.

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                • mongoswede
                  5th Gear
                  • May 2010
                  • 757

                  #23
                  The trick to bringing large stuff over from the UK is to fill a containter. Spend the $4000 or $5000 or whatever the cost is these days and fill a 40' container with trucks and parts. I know RN and other suppliers do this from time to time. If you ask nice perhaps they would let you ad to one of their containers...not sure on this one...but its worth a try.

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                  • SGS714
                    Low Range
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 83

                    #24
                    Originally posted by mongoswede
                    Series III Stage 1 V8 Salisbury rear axle assembly:
                    http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product...lisbury&page=1 Shipping will likely be expensive.


                    the older units are available too. Do a search on that UK site under Land Rover Series & "Salisbury". If you decide to go that route you might ask around as some one else may be interested in shipping one as well...if it might cut down on shipping.
                    Wow, these guys have deep stock and I think this one might be the ticket.

                    Has same ratio as current rear end and with the roverdrive installed i really like my current gearing..

                    At the office tomarrow I will run the numbers of this shipped over compared to the options offered by the Seriestrek, and GBR shipped.

                    If I choose to order I will check to see what it adds to order other item and stuff in the box. There would be plenty of unused space in the crate. I have bought 2 engines in the last 5yrs from the UK and the shipping is expensive but not to bad. The 4.6 V8 long block was low $400's and my MG engine was even less.

                    Great info and appreciate the help.
                    ________________________
                    67 Series II
                    71 Series IIa 88" ACR 2.8 Power Plus
                    89 RRC SWB 2-Door 2.4L tdi Spanish
                    93 D110 NAS 327
                    94 2x D90 NAS #'s 1076, 1181
                    95 3x RRC 2-SWB, 1-LWB

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                    • lrdukdog
                      3rd Gear
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 321

                      #25
                      axle salisbury

                      Go here for that rear salisbury.


                      Jim Wolf

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                      • feildpickedrover
                        Low Range
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 34

                        #26
                        umm.. ive got a quick question, couldnt you just modify two front diffs? i know that pro street builders sometimes welld their own axle/diff houseings up, so i would imagine itd be just as easy to cut the axle tubes off and spin the diff around to face forward, then weld back together and reinstall the axles, or would this mess up the internals somehow?
                        field picked 1965 series 2a 88"
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                        • I Leak Oil
                          Overdrive
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 1796

                          #27
                          Originally posted by feildpickedrover
                          umm.. ive got a quick question, couldnt you just modify two front diffs? i know that pro street builders sometimes welld their own axle/diff houseings up, so i would imagine itd be just as easy to cut the axle tubes off and spin the diff around to face forward, then weld back together and reinstall the axles, or would this mess up the internals somehow?
                          ??????? I must be missing something. Why would you do this?
                          Jason
                          "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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                          • feildpickedrover
                            Low Range
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 34

                            #28
                            gah, never mind, i just realized that a front diff would have the steering axles, but it would possibly be possible to modify a rear diff to fit under the back of a rover (modified from center drop to pass.drop) if you can get custom axles made, just shorten the axle tubes, and re weld (they do it in drag car applications all the time)but this isn't cost effective i don't think, if i remember correct my dad had a set made for an old ford at 300 an axle when he got sick of cracking them
                            field picked 1965 series 2a 88"
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                            • bkreutz
                              4th Gear
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 408

                              #29
                              I had thoughts of 4 wheel steering when I read that. That might be "interesting".
                              Gale Breitkreutz
                              '03 Disco
                              '74 Series III 88 (sold, 4/13)
                              '47 CJ2A

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                              • yorker
                                Overdrive
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 1635

                                #30
                                Originally posted by bkreutz
                                I had thoughts of 4 wheel steering when I read that. That might be "interesting".
                                reminde me of the Ford GP 4ws &
                                Willys MA-4WS





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                                re cut and custom axles:
                                If you were going to cut axles/tubes and narrow them you might as well start with a set of Ford 9" axles or something like that.
                                1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

                                Land Rover UK Forums

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