Buying Rebuilt Engine Sources

[rejeep]

177 FtLb @ 2300 RPM 117 BHP @ 4100 RPM.

isnt that in the series gearbox unhappy area?

[Eric W S]

I have never understood the idea of a performance Series 4cyl but that doesn't mean it's a bad thing. ACR does a great job. I just don't particularily like the way they drive. The power is there but it is at a different rpm range. Reminds me of a 2 stroke motorcycle...."peaky".

RN has been looking for cores to rebuild (or they have asked me several times but....I keep them for my own rebuilds), which would suggest to me that they are rebuilding them locally.

x2. A nice rebuild from a local shop and the 2.25 does nicely. The 2,2,5 is what it is.

$7,100 for that motor is a complete rip -off.

[junkyddog11]

I have never understood the idea of a performance Series 4cyl but that doesn't mean it's a bad thing. ACR does a great job. I just don't particularily like the way they drive. The power is there but it is at a different rpm range. Reminds me of a 2 stroke motorcycle...."peaky".

RN has been looking for cores to rebuild (or they have asked me several times but....I keep them for my own rebuilds), which would suggest to me that they are rebuilding them locally.

[gchinsr]

I have wanted one of those forever, but too rich for my blood new. There is a GOD, as I just bought a EBay low mile used 2.8 5MB going to Roland for a freshening/check up before sailing after holidays. Huge upgrade from opening up everything inside the engine to breath better.

[Mountain132]

That's great, the perfect xmas gift. Can't wait to see picks. I honestly hope it gets lost in shipping and ends up in my garage.

The worst part now is just looking in your driveway everyday you come home from work hoping it's there, or do you have to pick it up which would ruin the surprise

[SGS714]

Placed order for new engine today with ACR. Roland is the owner and very helpful.....should have right before xmas if all goes well.

177 FtLb @ 2300 RPM 117 BHP @ 4100 RPM.

ACR 2.8 Power Plus engine package, includes stage 2 head, Power Plus
Cam and Power Plus carb and intake etc, with all bits to convert from 3MB
Tubular 4:1 exhaust manifold
Thermostat housing + thermost + water*pump
Side plates, oil filler tube, engine mount brackets, engine mounts*etc, all prepared, painted and fitted with new fasteners.
Air freight
$7100

Will keep you posted after I receive.

[jac04]

Sorry, didn't mean for it to turn into that. I just wanted to make sure that what happened to me doesn't happen to someone else.

[kevin-ct]

We should rename this thread! To, the engine that Jeff was unhappy with.

[Tim Smith]

From the description page.

A complete solution to a tired engine. Ready to run. These engines are complete with ancillaries. Designed for unleaded with performance 8:1 cylinder head. *Core charge for cylinder head only $ 100.00.

USE RTC2352G OR RTC2352A



Part#: RNE568

It doesn't say it was rebuilt. In fact, it doesn't say anything about their source at all. Maybe this was a change in sales policy?

I have to take a step back because it seems Jeff was told these engines were rebuilt state side. If that's the case then I too would be upset as a buyer to receive that.

[Broadstone]

Well we are much better at saving what we have than our fellow owners in the U.K. as they discard many useful engines there. Even the 2.5 NAD, turbo and petrol engines do not mean much to them when the TDI's go in.

[Terrys]

The complete engines listed on the RN site are rebuilds of already-rebuilt military engines that they have done by a local shop. I bought one and RN came and got it back due to multiple quality concerns based on visual inspection only. Plus, the ancillary equipment (water pump, manifolds, fuel pump, carb, alternator) is all used stuff that is in 'servicable' condition at best. Check out the pictures below of the engine that I originally received from RN. When I asked RN to quote me a top quality rebuilt complete engine, the price I was quoted was $7500 . I found it to be more cost effective for me to buy the Turner long block and dress it out myself with new Genuine parts and parts that I rebuilt from my original engine.













For reference, this was the picture shown on the RN web site for the RNE568 Engine that I purchased:
(Big difference, huh?)

Those pictures tell a whole story. Repainted is not rebuilt. A proper REBUILD will start by removing all the core plugs and freeze plugs, then boiling the block. There wouldn't be any evidence of rust, or old flaking paint. It doesn't look like the head was even off that engine Jeff. If the seller of that engine told me he had them bebuilt, I wouldn't buy it and would be suspect of wear internally. How do you renew the timing chain, and tensioner without pulling the front cover? How do you renew the mains and rod bearings with pulling the pan? How do you lap the valves and ridge the bore without pulling the head?

[kevin-ct]

People who can, rebuild, people who can't, buy a rebuilt

[Tim Smith]

This post makes me think people have given in and cast aside a rebuildable engine for something they just drop in. Where do these poor things end up?

Although I've probably shot my credibility for defending that ugly engine pictured above, I would gladly rebuild a 2.25 rather than buy a new one. So if anyone has any of these ship anchors sitting around gathering dust, just let me know.

[LaneRover]

This post makes me think people have given in and cast aside a rebuildable engine for something they just drop in. Where do these poor things end up?

Right now mine is in the box that the MOD engine came in , sitting in my garage. I pulled the head off of it to fix the head on my 109 SW.

The plan is to re-build it so I have a spare.

[Tim Smith]

They are still listed, but don't know availability:
http://www.roversnorth.com/store/p-5...lternator.aspx

Maybe it's me but I'm not seeing a deception with that description. As stated on their page, I bet they really are "ready to run." Maybe just not ready to run to the Concours d'Excellence.

Don't read my take on this as an attack on your position or second guessing your experience. Obviously you didn't get what you expected. That much is clear. But at least they dealt with it correctly and refunded it for you. Correct?

I don't think it's fair to shun our hosts for offering a motor that is probably going to do just fine for most owners out there. If nothing else, at least it's an option to compare against when someone is looking for a replacement motor.