200 TDI into a Series IIA

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  • Skookumchuck
    2nd Gear
    • Oct 2010
    • 269

    200 TDI into a Series IIA

    Well I found a 200 TDI out of a Disco, the guy I am buying it from has a kit to move the turbo from the front to the middle of the manifold. Also he says that I can do a 180 on the altinattor and put it high on the right side of the motor. OK so here is the question will this work or am I buying a lot of work to fit this TDI in. Thanks for any and all replys. I have to pay for the motor on Tuesday so help is appreciated.
    1968 Series IIA
    1987 D90 Kid's project
    German wirehair Pointer (Wood Hound)
  • albersj51
    5th Gear
    • May 2010
    • 687

    #2
    From what I understand it's pretty much a bolt in swap. Look at the section on expeditionlandrover.info terri anne has a lot of info on it. The disco is harder to fit because of the turbo, but if they have a kit to move it, you should be good. I know there is some work to do on the bellhousing studs, but nothing major. Also, some good info on doing it sans turbo for better fit and longevity. Plus, even without a turbo it puts out more hp than a 2.25, much more torque and wont stress the stock gearbox and rear end.
    Lucky dog! I really want a 200tdi, but too much champaign for my beer budget.
    Last edited by albersj51; 09-02-2011, 11:47 PM.

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    • yank
      1st Gear
      • Nov 2007
      • 191

      #3
      You also have to modify the radiator and fan.
      I have found some good info on doing a 200Di swap. I think its a good option for a 88".

      72 SIII

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      • CMorris
        Low Range
        • Jan 2007
        • 66

        #4
        I'm just finishing up this conversion, however with a Defender "hi-turbo" engine. On the Disco version you will have to counter sink the four bolts at the bottom of engine plate for clearance, and as you know, alt. and turbo must move. Both engines require right side engine mount fabrication, and battery tray removal. I opted to remove the intercooler from the radiator/intercooler frame, shorten the frame so it just contains the radiator, and have Bell Intercoolers build an intercooler for me (this was purely to keep the headlights in the radiator panel instead of going outboard to the wings).
        I do have photos for anyone interested.


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        • Moose
          2nd Gear
          • Oct 2006
          • 226

          #5
          Originally posted by CMorris
          I'm just finishing up this conversion, however with a Defender "hi-turbo" engine...

          I do have photos for anyone interested.
          I would love to see more photos! I am planing on this conversion for my 88. Have secured a Defender 200Tdi, just looking to get it shipped from the UK. My truck currently has a 2.5 NA diesel in it, so the motor mount and battery tray mods are already done. The only real hassles left to swap in the Tdi I think are the inter-cooler and then the exhaust.

          Skookumchuck, is your truck LHD or RHD? I believe I read the Disco Tdi is an easier swap into a RHD truck.

          Brett
          Series 3 88 Diesel Soft Top
          Ex-Mod 110 Tdi

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          • Skookumchuck
            2nd Gear
            • Oct 2010
            • 269

            #6
            My truck is LHD, but the kit the seller is providing takes that into account and he is sending me a lot of pictures and a dvd on how to get everything in place. I really do not want to move my headlights to the wing that would take away the charm of the 68. Morris if you have any pictures and contact info for the company that fabricated your intercooler I would appreciate it if you would provide them. Well it looks like I will have to buy this motor on Wednsday. Thanks for the input.
            1968 Series IIA
            1987 D90 Kid's project
            German wirehair Pointer (Wood Hound)

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            • RoverForm
              3rd Gear
              • Jul 2010
              • 348

              #7
              Originally posted by CMorris
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              morris, that is going to be incredible to drive when complete. a little off topic, but which tires are those you have there?

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              • Skookumchuck
                2nd Gear
                • Oct 2010
                • 269

                #8
                285/75/R16's Pro-Comps, they came with the truck. Kinda noisy on the highway but great on the trails.

                Just an update sourced the new to me motor in Ontario Canada, it is coming with the new manifold so it will fit into Red Rover. Hopefully the parts and motor will be showing up in a week or so. I will post pics of the whole project as we go.

                Now I am having to wait.....
                1968 Series IIA
                1987 D90 Kid's project
                German wirehair Pointer (Wood Hound)

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                • CMorris
                  Low Range
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66

                  #9
                  Originally posted by RoverForm
                  morris, that is going to be incredible to drive when complete. a little off topic, but which tires are those you have there?
                  Michelin XZL 7.50x16 from Rovers North.

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                  • REDrum
                    1st Gear
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 175

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Skookumchuck
                    I will post pics of the whole project as we go.
                    How have things been going?

                    Assuming its in running now, any lessons learned you feel like sharing?
                    The Toltec Coffee fleet....
                    96 FZJ80: 3XL, lifted, and shaved
                    94 FZJ 80: our Costa Rican coffee and surf mobile
                    70 Series IIA 88: After 18 months of wrenching, its alive and legal to drive!
                    70 Series IIA 88: in US on H-1B visa
                    56 Series I 86: a whole new type of rover hell....

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                    • dreamin88s
                      Low Range
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 28

                      #11
                      I too would like to see pics espicaly of the modified turbo setup,
                      the turbo's both 300& 200 defender ,seems even clocking the turbo (300) still is in the way of the steering box end on a LHD (don't know proper name) and the defender exhaust exits 1/4-1/2" over the same area, as mentioned on another site the only way to overcome this is to go power steering or move the motor mounts,adapter plate ect...
                      if there is a way please share
                      not looking for debating.....just maybe ideas in how this could be done

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                      • 73series88
                        5th Gear
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 587

                        #12
                        when my motor up and leaves, knock on wood
                        this is going to be my choice.
                        hopefully not for long time.
                        aaron
                        73 series III 88 2.5 na diesel daily driver
                        67 series 2a 88 RHD sold
                        88 RRC sold
                        60 mga coupe

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                        • baja gs
                          Low Range
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 13

                          #13
                          I think the 200DI minus T might be the way to go. I have looked around and have seen some motors used or rebuilt for sale, but I would be interested in a 200di core (minus the turbo) to rebuild. My neighbor is a deisel mech and maybe order the parts to rebuild from our host Roversnorth. Where to begin?

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                          • o2batsea
                            Overdrive
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 1199

                            #14
                            am I buying a lot of work to fit this TDI in ?
                            Oh yeah. And I mean a lot. Not a bolt in by any means. Many mods needed. Swapping to power steering will help ease the pain somewhat.

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                            • I Leak Oil
                              Overdrive
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 1796

                              #15
                              Originally posted by baja gs
                              I think the 200DI minus T might be the way to go.
                              Just curious, after putting in all the work and expense of a motor transplant, why leave out the turbo? Why a 200 at that point instead of a regular 2.5d or a Mercedes diesel?
                              Jason
                              "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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