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In Fairbanks Ak, just got new shoes. Belonged to my father before it became mine.

Responding to myself just because...
Dad purchased it new in PA.
64K on the ticker.
I remember being driven in it a bit as a child. I rebuilt the motor in the early 90's, but could never get the brakes quite right so I ignored it for the next 26 years as it wasn't mine so I wasn't going to put a ton of effort into it. Acquired title with the promise that if it was made roadworthy again the ol man would be allowed to drive it.
As I am smarter now than I was in my teens, and the internets now exists, it was back on the road not to long after I found the time to throw at it. (With a 109 CV master cylinder )

Recently finished pulling roughly 1000 rivets and the door seals are now sealing again.
It's also now sporting parabolic springs and sits level for the first time in my memory.

[clearcut]

Josh I will try to attach 3 pdf's I took of the engine compartment. I've never tried to attach photo's to the forum so this is a test.
Jim/Users/jimchandler/Desktop/Engine Compartment #1.pdf/Users/jimchandler/Desktop/Engine Compartment #3.pdf/Users/jimchandler/Desktop/Engine Compartment #2.pdf
If this does not work, perhaps a kind soul will provide me with guidance

[patrickfoley1]

Josh I will try to attach 3 pdf's I took of the engine compartment. I've never tried to attach photo's to the forum so this is a test.
Jim/Users/jimchandler/Desktop/Engine Compartment #1.pdf/Users/jimchandler/Desktop/Engine Compartment #3.pdf/Users/jimchandler/Desktop/Engine Compartment #2.pdf
If this does not work, perhaps a kind soul will provide me with guidance

Josh; It does not appear to have worked. If you will email me at redbrush2@yahoo.com. I will attach the pdf's to your email and send it back to you.

Jim

[clearcut]

This is the third time that I started this reply, If garbage comes through please ignore it. 757 began Production 11 June 1968 and was completed on 21 June. It was painted Marine Blue. It was shipped HDO Roverts for Canada. A Standard 109 Chassis could be modified to accommodate the 2.6L Engine, Breather, and Radiator and you can verify this by looking for the cuts and welds required to accomplish the above. At least one cross member had to be moved aft several inches if my memory is correct. If my writing appears skeptical, I don't believe it logical to wait until the end of a production run to modify a Chassis that has been laying around for several years. Would it not be more logical that the Bulkhead Plaque was transferred from another vehicle? Does your unit have the Original 2.6L Engine, Breather and Radiator? To my knowledge all 109 Station Wagons were 5 door.

Jim Chandler (redbrush2@yahoo.com)

Please post some pictures of the engine and like

thanks

josh t

[patrickfoley1]

This is the third time that I started this reply, If garbage comes through please ignore it. 757 began Production 11 June 1968 and was completed on 21 June. It was painted Marine Blue. It was shipped HDO Roverts for Canada. A Standard 109 Chassis could be modified to accommodate the 2.6L Engine, Breather, and Radiator and you can verify this by looking for the cuts and welds required to accomplish the above. At least one cross member had to be moved aft several inches if my memory is correct. If my writing appears skeptical, I don't believe it logical to wait until the end of a production run to modify a Chassis that has been laying around for several years. Would it not be more logical that the Bulkhead Plaque was transferred from another vehicle? Does your unit have the Original 2.6L Engine, Breather and Radiator? To my knowledge all 109 Station Wagons were 5 door.

Jim Chandler (redbrush2@yahoo.com)

[TimberPig]

For my NADA 109 - should the chassis number on the bulkhead plate inside the vehicle match the number stamped on the right hand front spring hanger?

The number on the plate is 34300757A and the number stamped on the chassis is 25410369B.

I assumed that the chassis was built before it was destined to be an export and given the 25410369B number and then once the vehicle was completed for export to NADA it was given the 34300757A VIN. Does that make sense?

That chassis shows as a 63-66 109 regular,so much more likely the frame rotted out and a frame swap with the required modifications from 4 to 6 cylinder and 3 door to 5 door occurred.

[Landy757]

For my NADA 109 - should the chassis number on the bulkhead plate inside the vehicle match the number stamped on the right hand front spring hanger?

The number on the plate is 34300757A and the number stamped on the chassis is 25410369B.

I assumed that the chassis was built before it was destined to be an export and given the 25410369B number and then once the vehicle was completed for export to NADA it was given the 34300757A VIN. Does that make sense?

[bfein1075]

There are as many negative comments as there are positive, regarding Ashtray's Galvanized Bulkheads. The Galvanizing process results in warped panels. Pegasus manufactured mine. I received an email today from Debbie Halley. They have taken in a partner, have reorganized, and expect to produce and stock Bulkheads. Mine is flawless except for a pair of screw holes. I sent my rusted out bulkhead to be used as a template and I attribute the misplaced holes to the condition of that template.

I don't know how to attach photo's to this site, but I'll be happy to attach a pdf of the bulkhead to an email should someone want to view it. It was shipped "bare", and painted in Kelch's paint shop.

Jim Chandler (redbrush2@yahoo.com

Heard the same thing about Ashtree but I know someone who just got one for a NADA and its nice. I also have a friend who got doors from them and they are great.

As for Pegasus I like them and ordered some stuff from them but I heard the bulkhead business has become a nightmare form them and they were giving deposits back.

[ids2a]

Congratulations on having the 2.6. 366 began construction 18 September 1966 and was completed 30 September. Paint Limestone. Shipped to Rover San Francisco.

Thanks for the information, funny it was shipped to San Francisco as according our documents from the original owner bought it Portland Maine in 67 new, The wagon is still limestone 56,000 miles currently.

[patrickfoley1]

There are as many negative comments as there are positive, regarding Ashtray's Galvanized Bulkheads. The Galvanizing process results in warped panels. Pegasus manufactured mine. I received an email today from Debbie Halley. They have taken in a partner, have reorganized, and expect to produce and stock Bulkheads. Mine is flawless except for a pair of screw holes. I sent my rusted out bulkhead to be used as a template and I attribute the misplaced holes to the condition of that template.

I don't know how to attach photo's to this site, but I'll be happy to attach a pdf of the bulkhead to an email should someone want to view it. It was shipped "bare", and painted in Kelch's paint shop.

Jim Chandler (redbrush2@yahoo.com

[patrickfoley1]

Congratulations on having the 2.6. 366 began construction 18 September 1966 and was completed 30 September. Paint Limestone. Shipped to Rover San Francisco.

[ids2a]

Hello Patrick, would you have the build info on 366?our wagon is still running and driving with original 2.6

[bfein1075]

The color is Limestone. Deal with the Bulkhead IMMEDIATELY!! To my knowledge at the present time no one is producing the Bulkhead for our NADA. It took me from 2010 to 2018 to get one built for Clarence. It is unique to our model. 30+ of it's components are unique to our unit. It is most difficult to persuade a machine shop to create a jig to produce (1) part, with the knowledge that the shop will only use the jig one time and the pattern that is being used as a template is partially rusted out.

Jim

Ashtree offers the bulkhead. I think its around 3k for a galv one shipped to the US.

[patrickfoley1]

The color is Limestone. Deal with the Bulkhead IMMEDIATELY!! To my knowledge at the present time no one is producing the Bulkhead for our NADA. It took me from 2010 to 2018 to get one built for Clarence. It is unique to our model. 30+ of it's components are unique to our unit. It is most difficult to persuade a machine shop to create a jig to produce (1) part, with the knowledge that the shop will only use the jig one time and the pattern that is being used as a template is partially rusted out.

Jim

[SactoDisco]

Thanks Jim. Nice to see some history on the rig. I believe that the current paint is original. What would we call that? From what I understand the PO has it 30 years. Not sure beyond that. But I believe it has been in California and probably the Bay Area all its life. It’s has the period correct balck and yellow California license plates. The fella I bought it from lived in the north bay. He indicated he had taken it up and down California with his family. He purchased it when his daughter was born and now she’s grown and gone. He sadly moved into a modern, (cough) Jeep. I hope to get this restored into a nice driver. I’m still torn over how pretty I want to make it. It has awesome patina but also some bulkhead rust which needs attention.