109 NADA Registry

[patrickfoley1]

If I can be of any help, just ask.

Jim Chandler (redbrush2@yahoo.com)

[padcbellas]

#453 - Pete Bellas, Santa Clarita, CA - My father purchased it new in 1967, It has been sitting on my ranch for the last 20 years in need of restoration and I hope to get to it this year (2020).

[michel]

It appears it was only running on the first two cylinders... It also had mismatched sparkplugs. Managed to clean the plugs and do a compression test. Results were (front to back): 150, 152, 160, 160, 180 ( that cylinder was full of fuel), 160. I think it sounds good.

One front brake wheel cylinder was seized. I think I will replace all four.

The gearbox wasn't in a good shape. Some remains of a thrust washer fell into the drain pan and the mainshaft had the last 1.5 inch missing... Making the list of the required parts as I continue to discover the various PO modifications that were made...

I do not know yet as I have to see what kind of condition is the engine. It's running, plated and insured. I need to do a compression check and determine if the head is still good. The 109 has 102,000 miles, and has done only 3000 miles in the past 20 years. Chassis was repaired in many places. At least the repairs have been well made.

[michel]

Hi,

I have checked #720´s head part number: 542350...

Thank you Jim, the mystery deepens...

So, several of us have heads stamped 542350 (the NADA parts book states 542349 - one digit off), someone on the GNR forum said 512850 is the number on his multiple heads which he states have not come off the block, and now your cylinder head with two number's stamped on it; neither of which match any of the others. Very strange... Separately, can someone point me to where on the engine the 343xxxxx number should be? Thanks, Rod

[patrickfoley1]

When I send a Parts Catalogue by email I do not send duplicate drawings pages. If you are missing description pages send the numbers to me and I'll send them to you. I will send the 2 of you the Page that describes the differences between the 4 cyl and 6 cal NADA. It answers some of the questions you seek answers too. Rod did my 2 part #2 reach you?

Jim

[RoverRod]

Hi Michel,

Email sent with a nearly complete Parts Manual (if someone has a complete one, please share, mine has several pages missing, and the Service manual (thanks to Jim and Josh respectively!).

I agree that it would be much simpler to restore if it was just shiny or matt black paint!

If you have a chance to look at the part number on your cylinder head and chime in as to what you have, might add a little color to the discussion below.

Thanks, Rod

Indeed, only these NADA had Vinyl-coated dash plates. Not an improvement, IMHO....

Any reference material would be greatly appreciated! My email adress is michelo110@yahoo.com

[michel]

Hi Michel,

I'm just getting started with the NADA variant myself, so I'm no expert. But, every example I've seen has a straight stick, I believe it has to do with the fact that the bulkhead/firewall is pushed further into the truck to account for the longer engine, so there is not enough room for the "bent" stick. If you send me your email, I can send you the specific service manual and a nearly complete parts manual specific to the NADA which others were kind enough to provide to me. Best, Rod

PS No idea on the magneto switch, but given the plate itself is different than the other dash (that black vinyl stuff is unique to the NADA I believe), it's probably a mod made by a PO.

Indeed, only these NADA had Vinyl-coated dash plates. Not an improvement, IMHO....

Any reference material would be greatly appreciated! My email adress is michelo110@yahoo.com

[RoverRod]

Thank you Jim, the mystery deepens...

So, several of us have heads stamped 542350 (the NADA parts book states 542349 - one digit off), someone on the GNR forum said 512850 is the number on his multiple heads which he states have not come off the block, and now your cylinder head with two number's stamped on it; neither of which match any of the others. Very strange... Separately, can someone point me to where on the engine the 343xxxxx number should be? Thanks, Rod

16 December
My spare head has 2 part numbers stamped in it. 522668 and 557536. Neither appears in my 3.0 Rover Parts Catalogue. My 2.6 Rover Parts Catalogue has been misplaced.

Jim

[patrickfoley1]

16 December
My spare head has 2 part numbers stamped in it. 522668 and 557536. Neither appears in my 3.0 Rover Parts Catalogue. My 2.6 Rover Parts Catalogue has been misplaced.

Jim

[RoverRod]

Hi Michel,

I'm just getting started with the NADA variant myself, so I'm no expert. But, every example I've seen has a straight stick, I believe it has to do with the fact that the bulkhead/firewall is pushed further into the truck to account for the longer engine, so there is not enough room for the "bent" stick. If you send me your email, I can send you the specific service manual and a nearly complete parts manual specific to the NADA which others were kind enough to provide to me. Best, Rod

PS No idea on the magneto switch, but given the plate itself is different than the other dash (that black vinyl stuff is unique to the NADA I believe), it's probably a mod made by a PO.

Started #720 today and getting to know the beast. Is the gear lever original? My other Series have "crooked" levers, but this one looks like it from a Plumber's sullies store. Does anyone know what these "Magneto" switches for?

Thanks,

Michel

[michel]

Started #720 today and getting to know the beast. Is the gear lever original? My other Series have "crooked" levers, but this one looks like it from a Plumber's sullies store. Does anyone know what these "Magneto" switches for?

Thanks,

Michel

[RoverRod]

Thanks Michel and understood. Good luck with the new one! Rod

Hi Rod. Got your PM and replied. Thanks, Michel

[michel]

Hi Rod. Got your PM and replied. Thanks, Michel

[RoverRod]

Hi Michel, did you receive the PM I responded to yours with? Not showing in my sent folder for some reason? Thanks, Rod

I also have #808 which doesn't have much original parts left. The only original parts left are the bodywork (apart from the bulkhead) and the body is pretty rough. I will most likely use the safari roof from 808 to put on 720.

I am in Quebec, where quite a few of these NADA were sold.

[RoverRod]

Jim, As always, thank you for the response and ongoing information. Best regards, Rod

I have a spare Head in Storage. I'll check it for a part number. I have been unable to reach my old UK source, Alan Ramsbottom, to determine if he can enlighten me. He is at least my age, so he may no longer with us. I hope to get the photo's sent to those who asked for them by tomorrows end.

Jim