109 NADA Registry

[greenmeanie]

I ended up using an old set of brackets from a 250 and reworking them. I needed a new mount for the CS144 alternator and then ended up doing a lot of cutting and welding to make the power steering pump mount work. I'm adding an aircon compressor on the far side too. If I have one criticism of the Chevy L6 it is the minimalist approach to mounting holes for ancilliary brackets.

As well as manifolds I have raised the compression to a little above 9:1, a reworked head with 1.84I and 1.6E valves and lump port intakes, a comp cams 260H cam, HEI for spark and TBI for dueling. The spark and fuel will be run from a Megasquirt. It should push the old bus along quite nicely.

What needs done on the 101?

[Linus Tremaine]

scotty

All,
I heard recently that scotty passed away last year. I never knew him but I have heard many stories.

Anyone have some good ones to share?

Also, I ran into gene about a year ago. He still has an 88 sitting under that redwood tree but its not for sale! At least those were the first words out of his mouth when I rolled up in my 109. He warmed up a little when I told him I didnt want to buy it but just to say hi. I bet its still rotting under that tree.

I first saw his truck in about 2003. I remember seeing two 109s I think.


On a side note, Geoff, did you ever know Reed Cotton from bonny doon with a 109 or a guy from Watsonville with an 88 whose name was Ray Yates?

[superstator]

All the activity in this thread got me inspired to chime in. #413, with quite a checkered history. I know it's lived as far south as Panama, and as far North as Alaska, spent many years on the east coast, and has most recently bounced between a number of PNW folks. Along the way it's picked up a 2.25 diesel, some badly welded replacement frame horns, a Toyota FJ alternator/vacuum pump combo, Santana brake cylinder, and several coats of flaking white paint over the original green.

Since I've taken it on it's had new swivel balls and front hubs, new steering box, new alternator (another Toyota), and most recently a new universal harness & misc electrical goodies. Still to go: new heated windscreens, wiper motor, and new Fairey OD. And a little further down the road the diesel will be getting a top end rebuild at a minimum, along with a new exhaust. Eventually it'll either get a total rebuild, or replaced with a 2.5d or 200di. Parabolics are on that list someplace too, along with a lot of body work and paint someday...

One of it's brief windows of running reliably was during our big December snowstorm here in Portland, just before the biodiesel I had in the tank at the time completely gelled:

[TSR53]

Registry has been updated. I even added the 1967 Four Wheeler article to the first posting.

http://www.roversnorth.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3420

I still need to create the logos for the new entries, next project... enjoy .

[gotsloco]

With response to who I might have met since I first purchased my 88 in 1983. I have met a lot of people over the years. Reed Cotton sounds familiar but Ray Yates no, and I am not sure what the context was for Reed Cotton. Although I grew up in Los Gatos I never spent a lot of time there with a running Land-Rover that I would drive any distance. Driving back and forth to Salinas, Chico, SLO, and Vacaville in the 88 or Range Rover, yes.

I had heard that Scotty was not overly healthy about a year and a half ago at the last British Car Meet in Palo Alto. He was a character.

For good stories one might get Eric McKay(sp?) or Brad Blevins to enlighten us.

As for My 101 Lets start out by getting and engine in it. I purchased this truck from Tom Walsh. Ben Smith was driving to Mendo in 2000 when it threw a rod. I purchased it minus engine. Two years ago Rich Brengman decided to get out of Land-Rovers and sold me a 101 engine and Transmission he had picked up at some point. They are in my garage. For those of you not familiar with a 101 it is tall and the engine goes in through the top. I needed to build an ‘A frame’ crane to lift the engine into the truck. The truck needs complete rewiring, what land rover of that vintage doesn’t. I took out the seats of dubious origin (Japanese mini van?) and need to fit Deluxe Series seats. I need to get a new canvas on order. There are also some miscellaneous small parts I need to order from the Club – 101 specific. I have installed a Pertronix ignition in the distributor. I also want to build an alternator bracket to accept a Delcotron 10S1. Change out all the water pump parts for late V8 ones. Something about an old plastic fan and the best way to change it is to change out from the water pump forward inclusive. This truck is also a bit different as it has Maxi-drives front and rear, and that plumbing needs to be addressed. Most of this was to happen this fall but a red 110 station wagon was a deal not to be passed up, but I can say welding on a new outrigger, repairing the frame behind that and drivers footwell has taken a while. An exhaust leak and bushings are next. Projects, Projects, Projects. And a couple of Steam Locomotives that need some attention.

With regard to mounting points on the Chevy I6 engines what points. I have seen a couple of different mounting configurations for adding a power steering pump. I have one comment, hokey. I am not sure I can come up with anything better. Not much to work with. A 6AT it is not. The Air cleaner problem is another area that I will need to work on. The Air Cleaner you have shown is fine for the street but I would not want to see it out on the playa or on any logging road. My thoughts have been a Donaldson, probably an FHG series or maybe an FWA Series. I am just not sure where it will fit. I need to work on the truck. My 88 was the proto-type truck for the Pierce two barrel manifold conversion and one of the reasons I changed that to a 34ICH was the tiny K&N filter that plugged on one trip across the Playa. The standard Land-Rover oil bath and the 34ICH is fine with me for a 2.25, but not good for a 250 or a 292. When I am up at Ken's next I should look at the layout again.

How many are still using the Berg power brake setup? Not that I was planning that route but I am curious.

Geoff

[greenmeanie]

That all sounds familiar on a 101. I pulled the engine and gearbox out mine using the standard cherry picker as I have no way of using an A-frame in my residential garage. Letting air out of the tyres and taking the side panels off it just fit and was really a two man job with a lot of verbal lubrication.

Make sure you go through the radiator thoroughly as these trucks tend to run hot at anything above 50mph when the weather gets anything above about 80°.

I also have the Delco 10SI and just completely rewired the beastie with a Painless kit as the original harness had a melt down behind the instrument panel. I moved the fuse panel up into the battery box as I was really tired of the contortions required to get at the original for what little use it was. On ignition I have been running a Newtronics (UK company) optical trigger but am now converting her over to HEI.

I even need a new canvas too. I tried to obtain one from Undercover Covers in the UK but their customer service sucks and I could never actually place an order because the sales guy was always too busy. Now it is down to a choice between Exmoor or All Wheel Trim.

I got revved up to do the deluxe seats in my truck but they are thicker than the OEM ones and I just couldn’t get my legs under the steering wheel any more and I’m not a chubby bloke.

Same truck, same issues. Funny that.

On the Chevy L6 even the few holes there are seem to conflict with the water pump hoses, the belts and the manifold which limits what you can do with brackets. With my limited fab kit and the space constraints of having a bigger alternator and a power steering box to deal with those are the best brackets I could come away with. They work well and everything is mounted rigidly. If you don’t like the PS pump mount wait till you see what happens with the aircon compressor mounts.

That air filter was what came on the truck when I got it. It’s on there right now mainly as it is the easiest way to cap the intake while I run the grinder. My preference would be to run a CAT type cyclonic filter but that is something that can wait until I have the truck in a more complete state. It doesn't worry me too much as the 101 also runs a paper filter and pulls air from directly behind the front wheel. I inspect it as part of the general maintenance at oil changes and it does just fine with all the dust we have here.

[gotsloco]

Yes, most 101’s have the same problems. Leg room being the first, but that was designed in at the start.

I have rewired more than one vehicle and helped design more than one vehicle from the ground up, although I usually did the crawler tracks and jacking columns at work. My activity at Cal Poly was building the float for the Tournament of Roses. A ground up redesign about ever year.

My neighbors are tolerant, we had the front half of “Hard Rock”(1980) in my driveway for the after banquet party and for about a month after waiting to get clearance from SLO PD to drive back to Campus. We ran animation for about forty-five minutes at midnight for the party. I have had numerous project vehicles in the driveway since. No CC&R’s and no neighbor directly across the street looking directly at my driveway helps too. But I need to get my shop and house built out of town. If you are close enough you can bother your neighbors, they are too close.

The CAT Cyclonic you refer to, is probably made by Donaldson. My D4-5T and my J-D 610 both have Donaldson filters although the D4 has two oil bath (Pony & Main) and 610 is paper element. I have not been able to find a Donaldson cross for the 101 element or was it the cost was .. That is one of the parts I need to get from the Club. Paper elements are fine, but you need one with enough area for the conditions and by all means a cyclonic separator with vacuator valve.

As for my “A frame” crane, it is adjustable height. Lowered it can clear the 7’ opening to go inside my garage and raised it is about ten feet with one foot adjustments between.

I have seen how the A/C units have been mounted. You don’t get to use the HEI coil in cap distributor. I lived in Chico for two summers without A/C. 110°f for three weeks is doable even the day it hit 121°f. Ok it was warm. A tropical roof is a good thing. I am not sure if I want to add A/C to my wagon project. Time will tell.

Geoff
Member: ACMOC (Antique Caterpillar Machinery Owners Club)
Member: 101 Forward Control Club and Register

[greenmeanie]

A 101 club member - Steve the club chairman is coming out to AZ in September. He wants to visit while he's here. I think he's pissed that I let my membership lapse. Nice guy though.

I used to be a designer on excavators for CAT back at the plant in Desford in England. That was a fun job but just in the wrong place. We had a really cool old D6 that was all cable operated as a gate guardian. I think health and safety prevented them from running it. The plant was also handled the parts storage and logistics for Land Rover. On the other side of a chain link fenced wall we had all the parts you could ever imagine for Land Rovers and I remember drooling over the NAS spec parts at the time.

I've been in the desert for 10 years now and while I can get by in the heat I don't like it and it's no fun with two young kids and the wife on board too. When the monsoon hots down here and the humidity goes through the roof with the heat the trop top is pretty useless. This will be my DD and my wife's one condition for purchase was it must have aircon. The same unit will also provide an improved heater so it is a win all round for when I finally get to move away from HOA hell to somewhere with a civilised climate.

[lrover109]

#479 in Portland OR

Purchased #479 after I sold my carawagon in Nov

[TSR53]

Greetings, welcome to the registry. I've added #479 to the list on the first page.

[Crocuta]

Number 231 reporting

Hello all!
I have owned a NADA 6 cyl 109 station wagon since about 2000 or so when I picked it up from a man in Pocahontas Arkansas who didn't know what he had and at the time I didn't know it was that special. The previous owner from him had chopped the body up to make it into a pickup body so they had sawzalled the back of the roof and roof sides and sheet metal screwed them to the back of the pillar behind the driver door.
Once I got it home I was calling Rovers North for parts and they told me it was not your average Rover. Since then I have slowly searched out all the body parts I needed to get the body back to the Station Wagon it should have been.
It is currently not running and still resides at my Mom's house in Pine Bluff, Arkansas. I live in Fremont, CA and have not brought it out because I always kept thinking I was going to move again but 8 years later and I have yet to move so soon it will be brought out and I'll continue restoration.

Long story short, currently awaiting restoration in Pine Bluff, AR
It has a vin # of 231A
Is there any significance of the A?

Back home I also have extensive records on it from first sale to a Forest Service worker up in Washington state up until the 80s when it made it to Okalahoma and then no records till the man in north Arkansas got it.
I've yet to see what the Rover factory has to say about it.
When I get the records out here I can post its history outline if anyone might be interested.

Amusing thing was that the frame bits that stick out to the sides were packed with dirt. I dug it all out and as I did my Mom who is a geologist said the dirt was volcanic and there wasn't any soil like that anywhere in the midwest. Later that night I dug through the records and found out it was in the pacific north west. I always find it interesting the traces left within the vehicle that tell of it's own past.

Sorry for the long winded first post!
-Marshall Gardner
Fremont, CA

[TSR53]

Greetings Marshall. Yes, please do tell more about your new Land Rover as you find out. Also upload photos if you can. Welcome on board.

[Crocuta]

Bits and Pieces

Greetings Marshall. Yes, please do tell more about your new Land Rover as you find out. Also upload photos if you can. Welcome on board.

Hello Thompson,
I will post info as soon as I find more out on it.
I used to have a website up on it but it has been down for a while. I had better pics there.
Here are a few pics of my truck when I came back home to bring the last load of body parts I picked up in Vermont.
The parts that you see which are seafoam green (actually Krylon Jade Green Satin) are the only original body panels I had. The camo parts are what I bought off of a guy in Vermont.

Also forgive me if I am breaking forum etiquette by not posting the pics behind a cut or something. Just let me know if I need to change it in any way.





Thank you for the welcome!
-Marshall

[Linus Tremaine]

Picture

I guess I never posted a picture of my truck. Dont know why....


So here are some:

http://expeditionlandrover.info/Dormobile/pictures11.html

Its the dormobile!

[TCapelle]

My NADA wagon with carawagon top added

Still working on the interior furniture and completing the carawagon top conversion, brake work and some other odds and inns but here is my NADA #2 playing out in the snow ....