109 NADA Registry

[patrickfoley1]

Good Morning Ray;
I am not a mechanic, but have hired a local company that specializes in the restoration of Antique Farm machinery. I purchased "Clarence" new in early 1968. The engine blew in 1975. I pulled the engine and put it in a less than weather proof shed.

The engine had to be completely rebuilt, including building up rusted out spots by welding. The cylinders have new liners and new pistons. The engine runs, now.

I purchased Rover P4 110 workshop manuals and parts manuals. They show up periodically on eBay UK. I have registered at that site, and have several "Automatic Searches" in play that cover the P4 110. I suggest you do the same. That is how I found "Beechgrove Engineering"/Classeparts and Alan, the expert on our engine.

Be advised, the P4 110 engine came in both a 2.6 and 3.0 displacement. Not all of the parts are interchangeable. The Parts Catalogue published for our NADA shows the same pages that appear in the P4 110 Rover Parts Catalogue.

Should you wish, I'll be happy to scan the appropriate Workshop Manual Pages into my computer and send them attached to emails in pdf format. I have the NADA Parts Catalogue in my computer and can send any or all pages in pdf attached to eMails.

I am committed to keeping 2.6L engines in the Unit's that presently have them. That is the reason I offer the above services to any and all.

Jim Chandler (patrickfoley1) redbrush2@yahoo.com

[fred98050]

1960 109

Hi,

Just got a 109 a few weeks back. The chassis vin # is 164001203. Looks like it was Marine blue originally but I don't know much more about it....

Here is a picture of today's look:

Thank you

Frederic

[patrickfoley1]

Hi,

Just got a 109 a few weeks back. The chassis vin # is 164001203. Looks like it was Marine blue originally but I don't know much more about it....

Here is a picture of today's look:

Thank you

Frederic

Hi Fred; The lowest Series IIA Vehicle Number shown in my 1987 Parts Catalogue is 24100001A That was (is) a RHD 88. The Vehicle Numbers in the Parts Catalogue all are 8 numbers with a letter Suffix A, B, C, or D. I suspect that your Vehicle Number has been damaged and now reads 164001203. I suspect the number should read "26400120B" This would be a LHD Export Model 109 SW with a 4 cylinder 2.25 L Engine.
Best Regards,
Jim Chandler (patrickfoley1) redbrush2@yahoo.com

[fred98050]

Thank you Jim.

[scottlong]

2.6 differences

Hi All
If this isn't the proper area then I apologize. I have a 2.6 109, not a NADA. though. Is there a list of differences b/w the 2.25 and 2.6 besides the obvious engine bits? I am in need of a chassis and noticed that our host lists a specific chassis for a 6cyl 109 station wagon). Mine is a p/up, not sure what makes the sw different? Does the green bible cover the 2.6 in detail or is there another book for it?

thanks

[Cutter]

The frame is different as the engine is longer, I'm not sure the specifics. I believe the station wagon and puckup frame are the same, though i could be wrong. I know my frame has extra cross members that appear to line up with the back doors. The green bible has very good coverage of the 2.6, about the only place actually.

[patrickfoley1]

If the "Green Bible" you reference is AKM8159 Edition 1, it does not cover the Weslake Head Engine that the NADA 109 Units have. It should be valid for most mechanical and structural aspects of the 2.6L 109's. The NADA Wiring Harness is different in that the NADA Battery is under the Drivers Seat, but I believe the other 2.6's have their battery under the Bonnet. The best source of information concerning the Weslake Head Engine is a Rover Workshop Manual. The Green Bible covers the 7:1 and 7.8:1 engines. The NADA Engine is 8.8:1. If I can be of any help, I have most of the manuals and parts lists that cover the NADA Version, as well as the non-NADA 2.6 engines out there. patrickfoley1 (redbrush2@yahoo.com)

[scottlong]

Thanks! I have a standard 2.6, although the battery is under the seat? Theres a bunch of oddball aspects to my p-up, so I'll add it to the list. If there is any literature specific to the 2.6, besides the green book, I'd appreciate any sources for it.
8.8:1, it must be a noticable power boost. Is the combustion chamber much different in shape?

[Roverlab]

#249 was a movie car. Used in War of the Worlds, Jarhead, and Bucketlist; tv shows such as Grey's Anatomy and The Unit. From the Bucketlist movie, the hole in the roof over the rear seat floor that was cut in for Jack Nicholson and Morgan Freeman to stand through during the safari segment of the movie, still has the reinforcing 1" square tubing welded in place as well as the sealant applied to when the cut out was refitted. Originally Marine Blue and now a nice flat tan. Derek Dilks of Harrisburg, PA owned the car for the last 3 years and will soon be delivered to it's new owner. I have a lot of pix, but hopefully it will leave my shop in the next week or so after we tidy up a few things for East Coast use. Like heat and demist.

Thanks!

Trevor

[patrickfoley1]

The bhp on the 7.8:1 is reported at 93 or 95 depending on the source. The 8.8:1 is reported to be 123. Land Rover was trying to provide a unit that could comfortably travel at Interstate Speeds which at that time was as high as "Unlimited" in some western states. From personal experience I can report that even though the overdrive had yet to be offered, Clarence could run at 75 MPH. Gas mileage was a different matter. You could purchase 2 US Luxury Auto's with money left over, for what I paid for Clarence. I'm driving over to Loogootee, IN. this morning to visit my wife's grave. I'll return tomorrow afternoon. I'll try to respond to the other aspects of your thread Thursday. patrickfoley1-redbrush2@yahoo.com- Jim Chandler

[ckuhtz]

#78 is for sale

Hey guys,

I have owned #78 since early 2005. She was an almost completely original unmolested truck and was subsequently disassembled down to the frame. She's almost completely in parts, save engine, drive train.

Well, that's where things stopped as I've gotten too busy with two young kids and work to make any progress on it in the last couple of years and wife's advocating that we sell it. I've finally given in and she's on the block for $2K.

Frame is repairable, needs front horns and rear crossmember & extension (spring mounts are good). Axles have been stripped to metal with wirewheels, inside look in great shape. Engine is original and not seized. Fluids were filtered when they came out years ago and no debris was found. Body is straight, only damage is an unfortunate tow truck @#%& accident when I bought it and was gently winched into a tree (don't get me started) which put a crease in the front top of the left wing. The outside panel and inside is fine, the round bit needs an aluminum sheet fitted. -- the bumper took the force of the impact. Rest of body is in great shape. T-posts were toast when I got her. Bulkhead needs new footwells and door posts, but is solid otherwise.

Anyway, I have hundreds of pictures from the disassembly as I documented the original truck and then every step of the disassembly. I have the supplements for the NADA 2.6l 6cyl engine, and bunch of other bits and pieces.

Email christian@kuhtz.com or call 404-435-5389 if interested.

Best regards,
Christian

[fruitpunch]

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/2175317247.html

[AU_88]

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/2175317247.html

That is the post above yours.

Christian, if you have the truck for a little bit, I may be interested in it this summer.

[patrickfoley1]

That is the post above yours.

Christian, if you have the truck for a little bit, I may be interested in it this summer.

Good Morning Christian;
Have you and your Bride given any thought to using the reconstruction of old #78 as a "Learning Experience" for your Offspring? All youngsters should learn to work with their hands and a Land Rover provides a great opportunity to learn how to use hand tools, and to learn how to read manuals. It appears from your description that #78 is an excellent opportunity. When they are older they will be able to enjoy the benefits of Series Land Rover Ownership.

patrickfoley1 Bethel, OH

[patrickfoley1]

Thanks! I have a standard 2.6, although the battery is under the seat? Theres a bunch of oddball aspects to my p-up, so I'll add it to the list. If there is any literature specific to the 2.6, besides the green book, I'd appreciate any sources for it.
8.8:1, it must be a noticable power boost. Is the combustion chamber much different in shape?

I was mistaken about other 2.6 L Engine Units having their Batteries under the Bonnet. I did some research and it appears that all had their Batteries under the seat. I am not sure if the location was always under the Drivers Seat.

Below is a direct Quote from the Parts Catalogue that was printed for the NADA.

CHASSIS FRAME
Number 4 crossmember moved back 3t". Scrolls for hand brake relay moved back. Revised exhaust brackets. Additional mounting brackets for fuel pump and fuel filter. 'Battery' platform revised to act as a mounting for the servo unit. New engine mounting brackets.

The Weslake Head creates a different combustion chamber. There are a variety of Pistons for the 2.6 Rover Engine. The 2.6 L was produced for a number of years. Some of the Blocks can be equipped with the Weslake, but not all. My UK Rover Parts Source has explained to me which ones can be so equipped and which ones cannot.
patrickfoley1 (Jim Chandler) Bethel, OH