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  • GeniusAndHisAssistant
    Low Range
    • Apr 2012
    • 84

    #61
    E's ignorant assistant (dad) is wondering if a set of free 265 75/R15 tires will fit on his wheels/rims. They currently have 225 75/R15 tires on them. We are just trying to get this project rolling to assess the other issues before we throw much money into this - but we don't want all four tires to roll out in different directions on the 1st test run!

    Good news - the full repair manuals are on order and should be here in a week or so. Ebben can get advice that is actually usable! Ha!

    The attached photo is E working on an overhaul of an Atomic 4 - he bought a 32' sailboat on craigslist for $1.00. Another story....

    By the way, to pull the hubs do we just remove the six bolts on the hub?

    Thanks!
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    Last edited by GeniusAndHisAssistant; 05-04-2012, 10:14 AM. Reason: forgot

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    • cedryck
      5th Gear
      • Sep 2010
      • 836

      #62
      If your talking about hubs, the rear, the six bolts you talk about will remove the axle shaft on the rear, the long or short one,,,,

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      • GeniusAndHisAssistant
        Low Range
        • Apr 2012
        • 84

        #63
        We have the front end up in the air now and are trying to get to the bearings to lube them, and perhaps access any seals back in there which he would need to replace. The drums are off now and the assembly has been cleaned. Not sure what to do next. Probably should have started in the back but E got to the jack first and lifted the front.

        Jay (E's old man)

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        • cgalpin
          Low Range
          • May 2010
          • 74

          #64
          Tires will work fine.

          I can't tell you what's in those selectable hubs, but if you start removing it, things should become clear. Once the hub is off, you'll see the wheel bearings and use the parts pictures here as a guide. There will be an outer nut (there is a tool you can buy but a chisel will knock it free), then a lock washer which you need to bend up, then remove the lock washer and inner nut and heavy washer. Then you'll see the bearings. The whole hub assembly can then come off (disconnect brake lines).

          hth
          charles

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          • TedW
            5th Gear
            • Feb 2007
            • 887

            #65
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            Ebben: I see that your cat has discovered your truck. It is a known fact that cats (and dogs) love rovers - especially 1970 IIA's. My cat sleeps in the spare tire every night, and earns her keep by harvesting rodents that might otherwise chew on the wiring.

            Enjoy your truck! What is your Vin#? Our trucks might have been on the assembly line at the same time.

            Ted

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            • ducttape
              1st Gear
              • Feb 2007
              • 169

              #66
              This is going to be a great thread! Congrats!
              1967 Series IIA 88

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              • disco2hse
                4th Gear
                • Jul 2010
                • 451

                #67
                Originally posted by GeniusAndHisAssistant
                We have the front end up in the air now and are trying to get to the bearings to lube them, and perhaps access any seals back in there which he would need to replace. The drums are off now and the assembly has been cleaned. Not sure what to do next. Probably should have started in the back but E got to the jack first and lifted the front.

                Jay (E's old man)
                Stick back together and if anything like wheel bearings or seals need fixing (when you have it running), do it then. Chances are they will be fine. No point in replacing things that are not broken or worn out.
                Alan

                109 Stage 1 V8 ex-army FFR
                2005 Disco 2 HSE

                http://www.youtube.com/user/alalit

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                • GeniusAndHisAssistant
                  Low Range
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 84

                  #68
                  so after our brief break, we are back. we got the back tires off and are now working on the drums... boy they are stuck! we also got oil, brake fluid, and best of all, free sets of winter and summer tires! tomorrow will be taking the rear drums off, then figuring out the clutch and motor. we also have got a green bible, and it sure is helpful!

                  more soon...

                  ebben

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                  • o2batsea
                    Overdrive
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 1199

                    #69
                    Guess you're good then. Since you aren't saving the drums, a sledge works.

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                    • GeniusAndHisAssistant
                      Low Range
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 84

                      #70
                      Originally posted by o2batsea
                      Guess you're good then. Since you aren't saving the drums, a sledge works.
                      actually, the drums are in pretty good shape.. i'm going to try to save them... running low on money

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                      • disco2hse
                        4th Gear
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 451

                        #71
                        Originally posted by GeniusAndHisAssistant
                        actually, the drums are in pretty good shape.. i'm going to try to save them... running low on money
                        Yeah, that's the smarter move. These things are still carefully engineered and too much bashing and banging in the wrong place can be expensive. We joke about the 5lb spanner and in a couple of places that is an accurate description, but in nearly all other cases you need to be careful in how you undo and release stuck bits otherwise other bits you wanted to keep get busted too.
                        Alan

                        109 Stage 1 V8 ex-army FFR
                        2005 Disco 2 HSE

                        http://www.youtube.com/user/alalit

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                        • o2batsea
                          Overdrive
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 1199

                          #72
                          Originally posted by GeniusAndHisAssistant
                          actually, the drums are in pretty good shape.. i'm going to try to save them... running low on money
                          Then save up for when you DO have money for new brakes. If there is one area where trying to save money is NOT SMART, it is the braking system. Following closely in second place; tires. Highly recommend new master cylinder, lines, flex hoses, shoes, drums, wheel cylinders and associated fixings. Any advice to the contrary is foolhardy.

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                          • giftshopduane
                            1st Gear
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 103

                            #73
                            +2!!

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                            • disco2hse
                              4th Gear
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 451

                              #74
                              Originally posted by o2batsea
                              Then save up for when you DO have money for new brakes. If there is one area where trying to save money is NOT SMART, it is the braking system. Following closely in second place; tires. Highly recommend new master cylinder, lines, flex hoses, shoes, drums, wheel cylinders and associated fixings. Any advice to the contrary is foolhardy.
                              1, He is 14 years old. Let him make his decisions.
                              2, Brake drums are unlikely to fail unless they are cracked or severely worn.
                              3, Agreed on other areas that may be prone to failure (lines, etc.)
                              4, Being a good mechanic is not shown in how much money you spent, but in how careful you were in the execution of the task. A sledge hammer is only needed in extreme cases. Otherwise, there are better methods for removal. It is more productive to investigate why the drums may be stuck than going hell-for-leather and smashing at it. For example, judicious application of heat may be enough to break rusty bits apart.

                              5, At Ebben, take any advice you read on a forum with a grain of salt. Including my comments. I will never drive your vehicle and it is probable that others on here not either, so any decisions you make you will carry the consequences, and the cost. Your car, your choice. From what I have seen and read, I am sure you will make a good choice.

                              Finally. I and others have not seen your actual car. Things get stuck for a reason and we can't see that from the comfort of our chairs.
                              Alan

                              109 Stage 1 V8 ex-army FFR
                              2005 Disco 2 HSE

                              http://www.youtube.com/user/alalit

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                              • Partsman
                                3rd Gear
                                • May 2011
                                • 329

                                #75
                                Originally posted by disco2hse
                                1, He is 14 years old. Let him make his decisions.
                                2, Brake drums are unlikely to fail unless they are cracked or severely worn.
                                3, Agreed on other areas that may be prone to failure (lines, etc.)
                                4, Being a good mechanic is not shown in how much money you spent, but in how careful you were in the execution of the task. A sledge hammer is only needed in extreme cases. Otherwise, there are better methods for removal. It is more productive to investigate why the drums may be stuck than going hell-for-leather and smashing at it. For example, judicious application of heat may be enough to break rusty bits apart.

                                5, At Ebben, take any advice you read on a forum with a grain of salt. Including my comments. I will never drive your vehicle and it is probable that others on here not either, so any decisions you make you will carry the consequences, and the cost. Your car, your choice. From what I have seen and read, I am sure you will make a good choice.

                                Finally. I and others have not seen your actual car. Things get stuck for a reason and we can't see that from the comfort of our chairs.

                                Well said Alan!!


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