109 NADA Registry

[rover109]

Hello

Just recently found your forum.

I've been a rover guy since the 70's

I own 1967 109 NADA 649

Bought it from Zagata FWD Center Califon NJ in Jan. 1978
38k original miles frame up restoration over the years.

1967 109 5D SW
1972 88 sold
1991 Range Rover sold
1998 Range Rover

[ckuhtz]

Hey guys,

#78 has been sold to a new owner who is planning on restoring her. More later.

Best regards,
Christian

PS: thanks for all the kind notes. there just aren't enough hours in the day with everything going on.

[patrickfoley1]

I don't have access to the "standard" 6 cyl, 2.6 L head so I cannot compare. I have photo's of the Weslake Head in my computer, and can send them to you attached to an email if you send me one. redbrush2@yahoo.com. I had the good fortune to find a Weslake Head on Craig's List and purchased it. It is in excellent condition. Old entries on the Web, dating from the mid-90's indicate that warping heads was a problem. I also had the good fortune to find a UK Rover P4 110 owner who had purchased Pistons, and many "Wear Item Peripherals, in anticipation of rebuilding the unit. He subsequently changed his mind and I purchased the entire package from him.

If you or anyone else wants copies of pages from my Part's Catalogues, or Shop Manuals send me an email and explain what you need and I'll locate the pages and upload and send them out.

[patrickfoley1]

I have the 2.6 NADA Parts Catalogue that was published in 1966, in pdf. I can attach pages to emails if that will be of any help. I also have the Shop Manual for the Rover P4 110 Engine. I have not uploaded it but will do so if you or any other restorer wants access to it.

New Subject: Pegasus, UK has started production of Series Bulkheads. They have established Land Rover Salvage, Madoc Ontario, Canada as their Dealer on this side of the Pond. The First production run is for Series II & IIA 2.25L. A very limited run for the Bulkhead used in the 2.6L NADA will start shortly. If you need a Bulkhead for either Model, I recommend you take steps to get on the waiting list. I have been waiting a year.

[patrickfoley1]

Thanks! I have a standard 2.6, although the battery is under the seat? Theres a bunch of oddball aspects to my p-up, so I'll add it to the list. If there is any literature specific to the 2.6, besides the green book, I'd appreciate any sources for it.
8.8:1, it must be a noticable power boost. Is the combustion chamber much different in shape?

I was mistaken about other 2.6 L Engine Units having their Batteries under the Bonnet. I did some research and it appears that all had their Batteries under the seat. I am not sure if the location was always under the Drivers Seat.

Below is a direct Quote from the Parts Catalogue that was printed for the NADA.

CHASSIS FRAME
Number 4 crossmember moved back 3t". Scrolls for hand brake relay moved back. Revised exhaust brackets. Additional mounting brackets for fuel pump and fuel filter. 'Battery' platform revised to act as a mounting for the servo unit. New engine mounting brackets.

The Weslake Head creates a different combustion chamber. There are a variety of Pistons for the 2.6 Rover Engine. The 2.6 L was produced for a number of years. Some of the Blocks can be equipped with the Weslake, but not all. My UK Rover Parts Source has explained to me which ones can be so equipped and which ones cannot.
patrickfoley1 (Jim Chandler) Bethel, OH

[patrickfoley1]

That is the post above yours.

Christian, if you have the truck for a little bit, I may be interested in it this summer.

Good Morning Christian;
Have you and your Bride given any thought to using the reconstruction of old #78 as a "Learning Experience" for your Offspring? All youngsters should learn to work with their hands and a Land Rover provides a great opportunity to learn how to use hand tools, and to learn how to read manuals. It appears from your description that #78 is an excellent opportunity. When they are older they will be able to enjoy the benefits of Series Land Rover Ownership.

patrickfoley1 Bethel, OH

[AU_88]

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/2175317247.html

That is the post above yours.

Christian, if you have the truck for a little bit, I may be interested in it this summer.

[fruitpunch]

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/2175317247.html

[ckuhtz]

#78 is for sale

Hey guys,

I have owned #78 since early 2005. She was an almost completely original unmolested truck and was subsequently disassembled down to the frame. She's almost completely in parts, save engine, drive train.

Well, that's where things stopped as I've gotten too busy with two young kids and work to make any progress on it in the last couple of years and wife's advocating that we sell it. I've finally given in and she's on the block for $2K.

Frame is repairable, needs front horns and rear crossmember & extension (spring mounts are good). Axles have been stripped to metal with wirewheels, inside look in great shape. Engine is original and not seized. Fluids were filtered when they came out years ago and no debris was found. Body is straight, only damage is an unfortunate tow truck @#%& accident when I bought it and was gently winched into a tree (don't get me started) which put a crease in the front top of the left wing. The outside panel and inside is fine, the round bit needs an aluminum sheet fitted. -- the bumper took the force of the impact. Rest of body is in great shape. T-posts were toast when I got her. Bulkhead needs new footwells and door posts, but is solid otherwise.

Anyway, I have hundreds of pictures from the disassembly as I documented the original truck and then every step of the disassembly. I have the supplements for the NADA 2.6l 6cyl engine, and bunch of other bits and pieces.

Email christian@kuhtz.com or call 404-435-5389 if interested.

Best regards,
Christian

[patrickfoley1]

The bhp on the 7.8:1 is reported at 93 or 95 depending on the source. The 8.8:1 is reported to be 123. Land Rover was trying to provide a unit that could comfortably travel at Interstate Speeds which at that time was as high as "Unlimited" in some western states. From personal experience I can report that even though the overdrive had yet to be offered, Clarence could run at 75 MPH. Gas mileage was a different matter. You could purchase 2 US Luxury Auto's with money left over, for what I paid for Clarence. I'm driving over to Loogootee, IN. this morning to visit my wife's grave. I'll return tomorrow afternoon. I'll try to respond to the other aspects of your thread Thursday. patrickfoley1-redbrush2@yahoo.com- Jim Chandler

[Roverlab]

#249 was a movie car. Used in War of the Worlds, Jarhead, and Bucketlist; tv shows such as Grey's Anatomy and The Unit. From the Bucketlist movie, the hole in the roof over the rear seat floor that was cut in for Jack Nicholson and Morgan Freeman to stand through during the safari segment of the movie, still has the reinforcing 1" square tubing welded in place as well as the sealant applied to when the cut out was refitted. Originally Marine Blue and now a nice flat tan. Derek Dilks of Harrisburg, PA owned the car for the last 3 years and will soon be delivered to it's new owner. I have a lot of pix, but hopefully it will leave my shop in the next week or so after we tidy up a few things for East Coast use. Like heat and demist.

Thanks!

Trevor

[scottlong]

Thanks! I have a standard 2.6, although the battery is under the seat? Theres a bunch of oddball aspects to my p-up, so I'll add it to the list. If there is any literature specific to the 2.6, besides the green book, I'd appreciate any sources for it.
8.8:1, it must be a noticable power boost. Is the combustion chamber much different in shape?

[patrickfoley1]

If the "Green Bible" you reference is AKM8159 Edition 1, it does not cover the Weslake Head Engine that the NADA 109 Units have. It should be valid for most mechanical and structural aspects of the 2.6L 109's. The NADA Wiring Harness is different in that the NADA Battery is under the Drivers Seat, but I believe the other 2.6's have their battery under the Bonnet. The best source of information concerning the Weslake Head Engine is a Rover Workshop Manual. The Green Bible covers the 7:1 and 7.8:1 engines. The NADA Engine is 8.8:1. If I can be of any help, I have most of the manuals and parts lists that cover the NADA Version, as well as the non-NADA 2.6 engines out there. patrickfoley1 (redbrush2@yahoo.com)

[Cutter]

The frame is different as the engine is longer, I'm not sure the specifics. I believe the station wagon and puckup frame are the same, though i could be wrong. I know my frame has extra cross members that appear to line up with the back doors. The green bible has very good coverage of the 2.6, about the only place actually.

[scottlong]

2.6 differences

Hi All
If this isn't the proper area then I apologize. I have a 2.6 109, not a NADA. though. Is there a list of differences b/w the 2.25 and 2.6 besides the obvious engine bits? I am in need of a chassis and noticed that our host lists a specific chassis for a 6cyl 109 station wagon). Mine is a p/up, not sure what makes the sw different? Does the green bible cover the 2.6 in detail or is there another book for it?

thanks